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help id black spotted L# ?????new mouth pic 5feb

Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 21:09
by jabones
i need help to id this pleco, please help. i bought 3 of these a year ago, they were about 2 1/2 in. Now they are about 4 1/2inch. black with gold spots. have been this size for a while. they dont come out in the open often, hard to photo. Thanks Jason

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 21:15
by MatsP
Hard to say from that picture. A side on shot (lateral view) would help us get a better view of exactly what the fish looks like.

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Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 22:41
by grokefish
I know what it is,I know what it is!!!!!

Just cant remember, will got back in a mo....

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[Mod edit: Replace link with clog-tags to the species in the link... --Mats]

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 23:32
by matthewfaulkner
Surely it's since it's blue.

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 23:55
by Suckermouth
I don't think its L082 or L128. I'm guessing a species of Hypancistrus. But I am not really sure, I would really like a better picture.

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 23:57
by MatsP
Suckermouth wrote:I don't think its L082 or L128. I'm guessing a species of Hypancistrus. But I am not really sure, I would really like a better picture.
I was thinking Rio Orinoco based Hypancistrus based on the overall shape and the eyes being mostly on top of the head, but I don't think it's that useful to guess when the picture isn't very clear.

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Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 02:43
by corybrummie2010

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 03:58
by jabones
thanks for all the replys, i will post better pics as soon as i can get one. and Hypancistrus contradens is looking like the right suspect so far.

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 06:22
by Suckermouth
jabones wrote:thanks for all the replys, i will post better pics as soon as i can get one. and Hypancistrus contradens is looking like the right suspect so far.
Problematically, looks very similar, which is why I was hesitant to post a specific ID without a better picture.

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 17:15
by jabones
this is problematic, does look very similar. still working on pics

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 21:45
by Unungy
Yes please post better picture of this pleco.

It is nice and it seems to be a female, I don't agree with any of the numbers being suggested but better pictures will definitely help.

Saul

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 22:02
by grokefish
Sorry dudes I got it mixed up and didn't look at the species I quoted.

I think it is and Oligancistrus species possibly

:ymblushing:

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Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 15 Nov 2010, 00:37
by apistomaster
My guess is it is a washed out colored, slightly stressed, Hypancistrus contradens.

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 15 Nov 2010, 05:13
by Unungy
apistomaster wrote:My guess is it is a washed out colored, slightly stressed, Hypancistrus contradens.
Yes Larry good point but I still have my doubts.
Hopefully we can to appreciate better pictures.

Saul

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 17 Nov 2010, 01:51
by jabones
hope this shot helps

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????

Posted: 17 Nov 2010, 02:22
by Unungy
jabones wrote:hope this shot helps
:-b

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????new pic

Posted: 17 Nov 2010, 02:57
by Suckermouth
By process of elimination I'm guessing , but someone more familiar with those fish needs to correct me. It doesn't look like , , , or .

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????new pic

Posted: 17 Nov 2010, 04:22
by nvcichlids
i am going to go out on a limb and say its an over exagerated . As of lately, when people say size it almost seems like that 6" guppy I have... I had someone claim to me their neolamprologus occelatus was 4".. really" and then another friend claimed their pim. pictus was 9"+... I am not saying your fish isn't the size that it is, but in that last picture it reminded me of my

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????new pic

Posted: 17 Nov 2010, 04:23
by Firestorming
The last pic made me think of my L004's.

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????new pic

Posted: 18 Nov 2010, 14:56
by apistomaster
nvcichlids wrote:i am going to go out on a limb and say its an over exagerated . As of lately, when people say size it almost seems like that 6" guppy I have... I had someone claim to me their neolamprologus occelatus was 4".. really" and then another friend claimed their pim. pictus was 9"+... I am not saying your fish isn't the size that it is, but in that last picture it reminded me of my
Definitely not a Parotocinclus species.

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????new pic

Posted: 18 Nov 2010, 18:05
by nvcichlids
apistomaster wrote: Definitely not a Parotocinclus species.
so based on two pictures, neither of which shows much of anything other than color and that it is a loricaridae, you can clearly rule out paraoto?

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????new pic

Posted: 18 Nov 2010, 18:51
by grokefish
I'm sticking with

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????new pic

Posted: 18 Nov 2010, 21:41
by racoll
nvcichlids wrote:so based on two pictures, neither of which shows much of anything other than color and that it is a loricaridae, you can clearly rule out paraoto?
Unfortunately I can't be any more scientific than this, but I agree with Larry here. It doesn't have the form or coloration of at all. General appearance looks ancistrin.

My guess would be or .

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????new pic

Posted: 19 Nov 2010, 00:10
by dconnors
From the photos posted it is identical in appearance to my Hypancistrus contradens. Not very good photos though... :-S

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????new pic

Posted: 19 Nov 2010, 04:29
by apistomaster
racoll wrote:
nvcichlids wrote:so based on two pictures, neither of which shows much of anything other than color and that it is a loricaridae, you can clearly rule out paraoto?
Unfortunately I can't be any more scientific than this, but I agree with Larry here. It doesn't have the form or coloration of at all. General appearance looks ancistrin.

My guess would be or .
I couldn't have defended my opinion any better.
Thanks, R.

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????new pic

Posted: 19 Nov 2010, 13:54
by nvcichlids
racoll wrote:
nvcichlids wrote:so based on two pictures, neither of which shows much of anything other than color and that it is a loricaridae, you can clearly rule out paraoto?
Unfortunately I can't be any more scientific than this, but I agree with Larry here. It doesn't have the form or coloration of at all. General appearance looks ancistrin.

My guess would be or .

My paraotos were jet black with goldish spots.

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????new pic

Posted: 19 Nov 2010, 15:37
by jabones
here a good pic. sorry it took so long. thanks for all the replies. keepem coming.

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????newest pic is better

Posted: 19 Nov 2010, 15:48
by MatsP
Pretty sure it's a .

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Re: help id black spotted L# ?????newest pic is better

Posted: 19 Nov 2010, 16:07
by nvcichlids
with that picture I will agree, hypan, but the spots look really orange, is the color true or is it just showing due to lighting/camera settings?

Re: help id black spotted L# ?????newest pic is better

Posted: 19 Nov 2010, 16:33
by jabones
the color in the photois pretty true. and again largest is about 4 1/2 inch (male?)tip to tip, the other two are a bit smaller, 3 1/2 to 4 in ( females?). So if i get this right you think its a Hypancistrus contradens?