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I just bought some fry that came from the parents in the photos below.
The seller assured me they were

Ancistrus sp(l159)

, but in my opinion,
they are not even close. The only fact I have is that the parents are indeed
"wild caught". I had asked for photos up front but didn't receive them until
after the box arrived so I'm a little frustrated with my purchase. I wonder if
anyone would like to take a stab at an ID on these? Thanks in advance!

Hard to say without a settled fish photographed under water. I agree they don't look like a match, but fish often look quite different when stressed.

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Mats

Hi!!

It looks like
is another possibility
Cheers
Yann

I'm hoping the seller will do the right thing and give me some type of refund,
otherwise, this is a case of complete misrepresentation so basically fraud. I have
kept

Ancistrus triradiatus

and this species is different with the seller telling
me that the adult male has a "green" head. I also contacted Stephan Tanner of Swiss
Tropicals and he confirmed that they were certainly not

Ancistrus sp(l159)

but
unfortunately "brown" Bristlenose. It's to bad that people just seem to pick an L-number
out of the sky rather then to properly ID species and this makes the whole market
suspicious since I ended up paying 10 times what these fish are really worth because
the seller didn't have a clue as to the proper identification. I included a photo of
A. triradiatus for comparison which seems to have less coloration then the species
in question.

Hi!!

Because of the so "called" green head...I recall 2 Ancistrus species that were called "green"
It is Ancistrus sp L369 and L371.
L369
L371

The problem I only know pictures of young juvenils and none of adult, so I have no idea if an adult could potentially look like your fish...but it is something to take into account...your fish could eventually be this.
If you have a picture of the young it would help
Cheers
Yann

I know this seller personally she has REFUNDED your money. SHE would like to get the fish BACK at her expense yet you have refuse to send them back. and that makes you a common thief. do the right thing and send them back to her. it was certainly not her intend to commit what you said its fraud. she did mentioned to you that she wasn't 100% sure they were L159 plecos.



here is another picture of the DAD of the fish you got.

THE SELLER want you to send the fish back at her own COST.

I was close to deleting the two last posts here. I think you should discuss the solution to this OFF-LINE, not in public, as it seems like you have some issues to settle, and it sounds like there are some misunderstandings of who needs to do what and by when.

It seems to me that if the money has been refunded, then the fish should be returned - whatever their value is.

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Mats

Mats is right, this kind of thing rarely gets settled well if flamed about in public. The point about many Ancistrus l-numbers is that they are opinion and not fact most of the time as people don't have locality data.

Meantime, I don't like to delete topics, ones like these serve to show how we run the forum. They are also a good record should this happen again to either buyer or seller. If the seller wants to post their version of events, PM me. I would point the casual reader to pay attention to how often the posts above have been edited by their poster. This is usually a good indication that things are said and then "retracted".

However, I don't think anything useful is to be added. Topic locked.

Jools