L317

[Hellspawn]

I can get my hands on 2 L317 Guyanancistrus fish. At least I'm told they are L317. I haven't got any pics of the fish for sale. The guy wants to get rid of them because they outgrew his fishtank. As I was told they are now about 10 cm in length. He also told me he thinks they are both female. Do these fish attack my "normal" Ancistrus with at the moment about 30 juvenile/wigglers born yesterday? Do I need to put the 2 new ones in quarantine?

Does anyone know what they are worth?

Lost of questions, I know! But I don't want trouble in my fishtank. I know I must rearrange some stuff in there if these 2 are going in. Create some extra caves with some more rocks. I do have a 60 liter tank up and running for almost 2 years now. Only occupants some small snail, and a lot of fire shrimps.

[MatsP]

A very rare species, which makes me suspect the seller is making up what he's got - just based on the fact that we have a single photo and a single keeper... I'm not saying the fish isn't a good fish to keep, just that I suspect it is something other than what the seller says it is.

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Mats

[Hellspawn]

He lives a half hour drive away. I can always look at them and then decide. I was looking for info on the web and couldn't find any. Hope they're not pleco's. I really don't want those very big cats.

I'm going to ask for pics now. I want to see the "merchandise" before I buy.

[nvcichlids]

Hope they're not pleco's.

So the word "pleco" is used to describe in general any loricariidae. I would HOPE its a pleco in that aspect. I am guessing you meant like the Pterygoplichthys group as they grow large.

I look forward to seeing pictures of these guys/gals

[Hellspawn]

Finally a picture from the seller. Looks to me it's a very large catfish. I think it's going to be much bigger than the 15 cm's I read for a L317. Anyone knows what it is?

[jbmm]

l317? no way!

[Hellspawn]

Exactly my thought. I compared his pic against the one in the cat-elog. backfin is totally different.

[jbmm]

better ask some of the experts in the Pterygoplichthys range here
L317 is max. 13cm SL

(p.s. found the advert a few days ago on a dutch marketplace-website, got the same picture yesterday from the seller. The seller bought it in a LFS and did the Id himself... with pictures from a book )

[Hellspawn]

LFS? And yes, I found them on the Dutch site Marktplaats.nl

The Pterygoplichthys fish you mentioned grow up to about 50-70 cm's if I can trust Wikipedia. Way too big for my little tank.

[Loracidlover]

Looks like Pterygoplichthys joselimaianus, SL = 12" or thereabouts I think.

[Hellspawn]

http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... 61#p200961

Thanks for everyone who helped me with this fish. I emailed the seller this same link with the correct identification. Told him I'm not interested anymore, and best thing he could do is adjust his ad with this information. I don't want anyone who doesn't now squat about the fish to wake up one morning and find two 2 foot monsters in his tank.

[jbmm]

could it be L37?

[MatsP]

No, L37 is a Hypostomus, not a Pterygoplichthys. And I'm 99% sure the ID of P. joselimaianus is correct - the remaining 1% is that it is the species of Pterygoplichthys that looks almost identical, but comes from a completely different river (Rio Xingu?) - but that is a very rare fish, and it's unlikely it would have been sold under the wrong label like that.

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Mats