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Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 02:50
by SoCalDiscus
Found a couple little guys at a LFS, but didn't buy this guy since I wasn't sure what he was (don't need to be overwhelmed later on). I thought this might be a hybrid, of which I have some real mixed feelings over... but God he's pretty and if he is a little monster would fit right in eventually with all my big kitties in their pond/massive tank...

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Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 10:06
by naturalart
Wow! nice fish! Looks like it might be a big Pimelodidae, possibly out of the Leiarius group.

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 10:34
by MatsP
Looks similar to , but I'm not sure it is that one specifically. I suspect it is a hybrid of two large species.

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Mats

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 10:37
by Silurus
Is this the Leiarius-TSN hybrid? Can anyone confirm?

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 16:39
by Viktor Jarikov
Silurus wrote:Is this the Leiarius-TSN hybrid? Can anyone confirm?
I've seen many photos of these looking just like the one above but those were pictures looked at by a greenhorn amateur (me), so take my input with a big grain of salt. As for my marmoratus-TSN hybrid, I bought it at 5" looking differently already.

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 17:22
by SoCalDiscus
The biggest reason I haven't 100% gone with the Leiarius x TSN, is that all the others I have seen have the TSN white belly, which is missing on these two little guys. It's what I thought it was, but just am not 100% sure. I asked the LFS owner, but it came in with an invoice number only.

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 17:58
by Richard B
Not really much to add but it has the feel of a hybrid although i couldn't definitely say what the parents were. Leiarius x zungaro maybe

It looks like it will be a biggie but the pattern is most likely going to alter & be less pronounced when it reaches maturity

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 18:05
by Suckermouth
Indeed. This hybrid looks different from Leiarius x TSN hybrids I have seen before. That's a weird caudal fin shape for a pimelodid, too.

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 23:14
by Viktor Jarikov
perhaps I was wrong and was remembering Leairius x RTC hybrid?

these two photos are from Segrest Farms (FL, USA) web site along with comments (as is): (neither one looks like the fish in question)

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 23:34
by Silurus
If it's not a hybrid, I would guess would be the closest match.

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 23:38
by Viktor Jarikov
from http://aquaticfreakshow.com/theshow/ind ... 147#msg147

24" Tiger shovel nose x Marble catfish hybrid

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 23:44
by Viktor Jarikov
http://www.raubwelse.de/galerie/raubwelse/rw017.htm
Bildergalerie - Raubwelse Pseudoplatystoma fasciatus x Pimelodus blochi (Hybride aus Venezuela)

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 23:50
by SoCalDiscus
You know, I didn't think to ask if they knew where the shipment had come from. That would have been potentially helpful.

Part of me wants to go back and get him just to see what he turns out to be... Then there's the part of me that knows I've got my hands full already and fears that I have no idea what he would turn out to be...

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 24 Aug 2010, 00:09
by Viktor Jarikov

Re: Spotted little baby, but not sure of the species.

Posted: 24 Aug 2010, 12:01
by The.Dark.One
I hate the idea of hybrids and have never seen one I actually like, but even I have to admit that the Pseudoplatystoma x Pseudodoras is attractive.