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large pleco

Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 20:58
by sequoiacat
What pleco grows between 26-30 inches yet is commonly available?

Re: large pleco

Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 21:03
by Jools
None that I can think of.

Jools

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 22:39
by Barbie
In the US, are relatively easy to come across, but a bit larger than the size requested eventually. Also they're predatory little snots :p.

Barbie

Re: large pleco

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 00:05
by Jools
Yeah, I discounted as it gets bigger than 30".

Jools

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 06:23
by sequoiacat
Yah I can get an adonis but I hear they get more upnoxius as they get bigger.

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 06:54
by AleGer
What about Acanthicus sp. (L193) or Acanthicus hystrix? They grow up to 60 cm SL and it is approximately 70 cm TL(28").

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 06:59
by andywoolloo
you must have a massive tank or heated pond?

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 07:05
by AleGer

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 08:21
by grokefish
AleGer wrote:In Cat-e Log also we can find

Megalancistrus parananus,


I can say that I have seen a large on of these on a trip to that Retailer in Pinxton and he was the most stunning looking large plec I have ever seen and I have had and seen many large plecs.

Onthe point of Hystrix I think you would be very lucky to see one.

Re: large pleco

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 08:44
by Jools
The poster asked for species that are commonly available (presumably in California) - some of the species mentioned are illegal in the US and some are not exported. A couple a good retailer might be able to get.

So, I stick by my first reply.

Jools

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 09:22
by AleGer
The poster asked for species that are commonly available (presumably in California) - some of the species mentioned are illegal in the US and some are not exported. A couple a good retailer might be able to get.

So, I stick by my first reply.
You are right;)
I jast wanted to show all the species from Cat-e Log in such size

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 09:24
by sequoiacat
Thanks so much Jools.

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 09:26
by sequoiacat
AleGer, Of course I know what the catalog has its link is atop of this page, I was just hoping something was overlooked.

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 09:45
by AleGer
I just wanted to help:)

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 12:38
by MatsP
AleGer wrote:What about Acanthicus sp. (L193) or Acanthicus hystrix? They grow up to 60 cm SL and it is approximately 70 cm TL(28").

I'd worry a little bit about the fact that these sizes MAY not be accurate - it's quite possible that these are "the biggest we've seen so far". Since these fish are pretty hard to distinguish when adult (because the spots go missing, and the capture location is not always known), any really large specimens that HAVE been found may be misidentified as A. adonis.

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Mats

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 13:20
by AleGer
Mats, you are absolutely right:)
But in the other side, I know a lot of fish that their official maximum size from since book or resources much more shorter than their size in fact.
For example Gymnocephalus acerinus. Official max size = 20,3 cm. In fact I saw it more than 50 cm long.

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 14:06
by MatsP
AleGer wrote:Mats, you are absolutely right:)
But in the other side, I know a lot of fish that their official maximum size from since book or resources much more shorter than their size in fact.
For example Gymnocephalus acerinus. Official max size = 20,3 cm. In fact I saw it more than 50 cm long.
Absolutely, and if it's a catfish, and there is good evidence (such as a photo with a ruler/tape-measure that is readable next to the fish or a reference to some good source on the internet, etc).

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Mats

Re: large pleco

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 17:06
by sunfish
What about ? If I ever have a truely massive tank, that's what I would go for. Over here they are not impossible to get (though rather expensive). I have actually seen them in a "normal" shop.

edit
*how come I can't get a clog to link directly to the species?*

Re: large pleco

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 17:14
by MatsP
As to "ps": Because you didn't write the species name correctly. It needs to be EXACTLY right [easiest, and what I do, is to go to the relevant page and copy the CLOG-link at the lower part of the page].

In this case it must be like this:

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[clog]Pseudorinelepis sp(l095)[/clog]
You had

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[clog]Pseudorinelepis sp. (l095)[/clog]
It may be just a dot and a space, but it's more than enough to confuse the CLOG-link handling code (and that's definitely not something that is easy to fix - it is possible to make more intelligence into the code, but it wouldn't be comprehensive enough to make a big difference). It gets even more interesting when trying to link to some of the more exotic species, like "Ancistrus sp. rio ucayali" - I can't write that down without checking up on the species page.

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Mats

Re: large pleco

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 17:50
by sunfish
MatsP wrote:As to "ps": Because you didn't write the species name correctly. It needs to be EXACTLY right [easiest, and what I do, is to go to the relevant page and copy the CLOG-link at the lower part of the page].

In this case it must be like this:

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[clog]Pseudorinelepis sp(l095)[/clog]
You had

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[clog]Pseudorinelepis sp. (l095)[/clog]
It may be just a dot and a space, but it's more than enough to confuse the CLOG-link handling code (and that's definitely not something that is easy to fix - it is possible to make more intelligence into the code, but it wouldn't be comprehensive enough to make a big difference). It gets even more interesting when trying to link to some of the more exotic species, like "Ancistrus sp. rio ucayali" - I can't write that down without checking up on the species page.

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Mats

OK, thanks. I never noticed the clog link before... :oops:

But it is rather confusing that you can't just copy what it says under 'scientific name' on the data sheet for the clog tag to work.

Re: large pleco

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 20:04
by MatsP
sunfish wrote:OK, thanks. I never noticed the clog link before... :oops:

But it is rather confusing that you can't just copy what it says under 'scientific name' on the data sheet for the clog tag to work.

Yes, it's a bit annoying and confusing. It has to do with the fact that the way the database deals with spaces, punctuation, quotes and such things, and it's not so easy to "fix" that.

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Mats

Re: large pleco

Posted: 03 Aug 2010, 09:15
by Jools
sunfish wrote:OK, thanks. I never noticed the clog link before... :oops:

But it is rather confusing that you can't just copy what it says under 'scientific name' on the data sheet for the clog tag to work.
Happy to have a wider discussion around it in the bugs & suggestions forum.

Jools

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 03 Aug 2010, 09:30
by racoll
Sorry to derail the thread further, but sunfish may not be aware that you can now clog-link with simply the L number.

A great feature, and handy if you are in a rush or can't remember the spelling of the generic name.

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[clog]L095[/clog]

becomes ...

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 22:36
by grokefish
Jools wrote:The poster asked for species that are commonly available (presumably in California) - some of the species mentioned are illegal in the US and some are not exported. A couple a good retailer might be able to get.

So, I stick by my first reply.

Jools

LOL, sometimes I really should read posts better...........

Re: large pleco

Posted: 05 Aug 2010, 09:25
by Jools
Having said all that, appears to fit the bill.

Jools

Re: large pleco

Posted: 05 Aug 2010, 16:51
by 2wheelsx2
Wouldn't the poor cousin of the , the fit all part of the bill? Around here anyway, they've been reasonable affordable.

Re: large pl*co

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 01:03
by sequoiacat
Thanks everyone. Roght now I have to post in the other catfish of south america.