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Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 14 Jun 2010, 11:13
by Bjørn
Hi.
I have a group of this beautiful Ancistrus. I've bred quite a few pleco's but this one is more difficult. Also extremely shy. Any comment on keeping, feeding, breeding this fish I'll be thankful
The parent fish were cought near the village Ourem , and bred in Germany. Mine are F1 of these.
I've had them for 3 years now and I 'have tried different setups. The Largest Male is now 15cm and very rough and killed one of the females, so I decided to eliminate him from the group. I have only 2 females left (5 males) therefor I considering to eliminate 3 other males from the group and remain with 2+2.
Bjørn
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 14 Jun 2010, 11:36
by MatsP
It is also a very rare fish - not at all common in the trade.
I'd expect that breeding and feeding is similar to
- soft, acidic and fairly warm water. As they are very shy, you probably want to keep them in their own tank - possibly with a few swimming fish to make them feel happy.
Edit: And welcome to the forum, I see that it's your first post here.
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Mats
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 14 Jun 2010, 18:27
by Bjørn
Thanks Mats
Maybe I should try only one male with to females.
Had the same problem with L-107, too many males.
Bjørn
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 14 Jun 2010, 19:35
by MatsP
Yes, multiple males can lead to "fighting instead of loving" in the tank.
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Mats
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 20:49
by Bjørn
The L-59 is cought south of Belém in a clearwater river. Usually found atached to wooden pier of bridge etc.
That's miles away from Rio Negro where among other, L-107 and L-183 is found. I use Oak leaves to lower the pH, but doesn't seem to work with L-59.
I mow have pH 6,2 28C tap water is 6,5 and changing 3 times a week 30-40 % of the water each time. Lowering the temp from 28C to 25C.
So maybe Janne have an other answer !!?
Bjørn
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 20:58
by MatsP
Hmm, yeah, I guess Rio Xingu is not really a blackwater river.
Janne's ideas would be appreciated to me too.
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Mats
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 22 Jun 2010, 07:49
by Bas Pels
MatsP wrote:Hmm, yeah, I guess Rio Xingu is not really a blackwater river.
Mats
No, it's whitewater
Most blackwater is north of the Amazon river, whitewater is mostly south. Whitewater fish are much easierto keep, as the water is not that extreme
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 22 Jun 2010, 08:16
by Yann
But Ourem is not on the Rio Xingu!!
it is on the Guamá...
Cheers
Yann
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 22 Jun 2010, 09:30
by MatsP
Yann wrote:But Ourem is not on the Rio Xingu!!
it is on the Guamá...
Cheers
Yann
Ah, and I think Guama is more towards black-water - it may not be Rio Negro type blackwater, but going in that direction.
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Mats
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 22 Jun 2010, 11:23
by Bjørn
"I would like to restrict the distribution of Ancistrus hoplogenys to the river system of the Rio Guama in state of Para in north east Brazil, to which also belongs the Rio Capim, the typical locality of the species.
Until now no fish anywhere near as prettily coloured as L059 had been found anywhere else in Brazil
The catfish L059 was discovered by Kilian, Ludwig and a few collectors from the firm Tropicarium Para (Belem) in the summer of 1989 in a small tributary of the Rio Guama in the vicinity of the village Ourem. The hunters described this place of discovery as a smallish quite flat clear water river, in which the fish preferred to attached themselves to submerged wood, for example the wooden supports of a road bridge."
From the aricle on "The White Seam Bristelnose"
I have 2 female 10cm and wonder about wich male to go with them. ? I`m afraid to put the biggest male16 cm in because he allredy killed an other female.
I will first try with an 12 cm male.
This atempt will be a trio.
Bjørn
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 19:25
by Bjørn
Nice clutch of eggs today
This was a great success, but as usuall the first breeding often ends with just a nice meal for the male. Let's hope the eggs remains for the next days.
But I saw the other female also with eggs...ready for next breeding already.
Feeling great now, it pays to be patience
Bjørn
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 11:20
by Bjørn
just as expected, the eggs were eaten...
I guess there will be a new clutch of eggs in a few days.
Bjørn
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 13:06
by MatsP
I think that's fairly normal, and best of luck for next lot.
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Mats
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 03 Jul 2010, 19:11
by Farid
hi Bjørn
can i see a picture of your set up?
regards from zurich
farid
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 14:27
by Bjørn
Hi Farid
Just a simple setup.
3 caves and a large piece of wood on top.
no plants, only light from other aquariums that ligts up a little bit.
Bjørn
Re: Ancistrus Hoplogenys L-59
Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 21:42
by djclueze
Hi bjørn..
ive just got eggs on my pair off L-59. A bigg clucth.. and they are dooing great.. now on the 4 day whit the male ind the cave keeping them nicely.
I just bought them off a guy that had given up on them.
the day after i got them one of the 2 female died.. may killed by the male..very wierd death.
But now 1½ month after i bought them there was eggs.
Im keeping them in pure Rain water on 26C.
one anubias plant.
5 endlers wild form.
5 caves and a big lump off wood on top. just like u.
do u have a picture off our L-59?
kind regards Alex
Denmark