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What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 15:01
by Birger Amundsen
Can anyone take ID on this, it`s adult, and about 120mm TL (think I`w asked before as well)
[Mod edit; Modify title --Mats]
Re: What hypan?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 15:22
by MermaidMel
Starlight Bristlenose L183 I think
Re: What hypan?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 15:29
by MatsP
I tend to say that it's NOT L183
- but a shot of the dorsal fin would help.
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Mats
Re: What hypan?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 15:53
by Birger Amundsen
Agree Mats, not L-183, got them in another tank. I couldt pick it out, ant take som shots of the dorsal, IF I can catch it
Get back in a jiffy....
Re: What hypan?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 15:58
by Suckermouth
We look forward to pictures. There's that article about the Ancistrus hoplogenys group in Shane's World that might help.
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 16:16
by Birger Amundsen
Good title wa shanged, dont know why I said hypan LOL
Well... Here is picks of the dorsal, had to do some lightening on them, but there should be possibility to count the rays now i think?
I count 8?
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 16:24
by MatsP
I came to 8 as well, so either we're both right or both wrong. It rules out L183 which has 10-12 and I think it also rules out L071/L181/L249 which have 9 [to the best of my knoweldge].
L100?
I take it you don't know WHERE it was caught?
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Mats
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 16:36
by Birger Amundsen
Right Mats, I dont know location on it, had a female as well, but died (at least I think it did)
To many L-cats here LOL
There is no white seam on it, can the dots on the eye give some clue? I have looked and looked, and I agre that its `none of the one you mention Mats. A bit of a pussle to me.....
Any more picks that could help, before I`l put him back?
Clearly he is an adult?
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 16:40
by Suckermouth
According to the Shane's World article, 8 is a fin ray count for both L-numbers, but the lack of a white stripe should make it L71/L181/L249.
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 17:10
by Birger Amundsen
All those have size over 200mm? I`W had mine for nearly two years. only fish that I think match, are L-180, but then again dont match the headshape, atleast not pick one, on the other side, the last pick is pretty close???? Just thinkig out loud
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 17:18
by Suckermouth
Well it's pretty hard to tell if it has a ranunculus-like head shape from the side. If you can see it doesn't have the same head shape I'd say it's not L180.
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 17:24
by Birger Amundsen
As I said, just thinking out loud
You guyes know this far better than I do
It certanly dont have ranuculus head
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 18:30
by Unungy
Saw a vendor in the USA advertising L-184 BRILLIANT ANCISTRUS
could it be? I could not find pictures of any L-184 anywhere
Saul
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 18:32
by Suckermouth
There are
pics in the Cat-eLog. It looks like it has fewer spots than the pictured fish.
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 19:08
by MatsP
Birger Amundsen wrote:All those have size over 200mm? I`W had mine for nearly two years. only fish that I think match, are L-180, but then again dont match the headshape, atleast not pick one, on the other side, the last pick is pretty close???? Just thinkig out loud
In my experience, Ancistrus species grow quite slowly once they have reached some sort of sexual maturity - but they DO continue to grow. Combine that with the fact that it's perhaps not quite as ideal a situation as in the wild, they may not reach their ultimate max size (and if the size is from something like Aqualog or DATZ, it's probably TL not SL - highly likely for L-numbers that haven't got a scientific description, so take off about 20% - 160mm SL for a 200mm TL fish is reasonable, I think).
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Mats
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 19:17
by Unungy
Suckermouth wrote:There are
pics in the Cat-eLog. It looks like it has fewer spots than the pictured fish.
Yes you are right. I could not see any pictures before.
maybe it is my browser lol
I will have more inclinations of L180.
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 20:09
by claro
Hi,
i try to find a solution to eL-number this my ancistrus (ist the same as your) in this topic:
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... hilit=L213
i think that is undocumented L-number by genus Ancistrus dolichopterus.
Milan
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 20:24
by Unungy
I don't see no white on his tail? but yes it looks very similar otherwise.
Saul
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 27 May 2010, 20:45
by claro
White on tail have got only young, later haven't got white on tail and dots are smaller but base is all the time very dark.
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 28 May 2010, 00:25
by Unungy
Yes they look just like it. I think we have an ID
Thank you for sharing those amazing pictures.
Saul
Re: What Ancistrus?
Posted: 31 May 2010, 20:00
by Birger Amundsen
Might be the one.....