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What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 15:01
by Birger Amundsen
Can anyone take ID on this, it`s adult, and about 120mm TL (think I`w asked before as well)



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[Mod edit; Modify title --Mats]

Re: What hypan?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 15:22
by MermaidMel
Starlight Bristlenose L183 I think

Re: What hypan?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 15:29
by MatsP
I tend to say that it's NOT L183 - but a shot of the dorsal fin would help.

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Mats

Re: What hypan?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 15:53
by Birger Amundsen
Agree Mats, not L-183, got them in another tank. I couldt pick it out, ant take som shots of the dorsal, IF I can catch it :D Get back in a jiffy....

Re: What hypan?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 15:58
by Suckermouth
We look forward to pictures. There's that article about the Ancistrus hoplogenys group in Shane's World that might help.

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 16:16
by Birger Amundsen
Good title wa shanged, dont know why I said hypan LOL
Well... Here is picks of the dorsal, had to do some lightening on them, but there should be possibility to count the rays now i think?

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I count 8?

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 16:24
by MatsP
I came to 8 as well, so either we're both right or both wrong. It rules out L183 which has 10-12 and I think it also rules out L071/L181/L249 which have 9 [to the best of my knoweldge].

L100?

I take it you don't know WHERE it was caught?

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Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 16:36
by Birger Amundsen
Right Mats, I dont know location on it, had a female as well, but died (at least I think it did) :oops: To many L-cats here LOL

There is no white seam on it, can the dots on the eye give some clue? I have looked and looked, and I agre that its `none of the one you mention Mats. A bit of a pussle to me.....

Any more picks that could help, before I`l put him back?
Clearly he is an adult?

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 16:40
by Suckermouth
According to the Shane's World article, 8 is a fin ray count for both L-numbers, but the lack of a white stripe should make it L71/L181/L249.

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 17:10
by Birger Amundsen
All those have size over 200mm? I`W had mine for nearly two years. only fish that I think match, are L-180, but then again dont match the headshape, atleast not pick one, on the other side, the last pick is pretty close???? Just thinkig out loud :D

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 17:18
by Suckermouth
Well it's pretty hard to tell if it has a ranunculus-like head shape from the side. If you can see it doesn't have the same head shape I'd say it's not L180.

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 17:24
by Birger Amundsen
As I said, just thinking out loud :D You guyes know this far better than I do :D It certanly dont have ranuculus head :D

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 18:30
by Unungy
Saw a vendor in the USA advertising L-184 BRILLIANT ANCISTRUS

could it be? I could not find pictures of any L-184 anywhere


Saul

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 18:32
by Suckermouth
There are pics in the Cat-eLog. It looks like it has fewer spots than the pictured fish.

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 19:08
by MatsP
Birger Amundsen wrote:All those have size over 200mm? I`W had mine for nearly two years. only fish that I think match, are L-180, but then again dont match the headshape, atleast not pick one, on the other side, the last pick is pretty close???? Just thinkig out loud :D
In my experience, Ancistrus species grow quite slowly once they have reached some sort of sexual maturity - but they DO continue to grow. Combine that with the fact that it's perhaps not quite as ideal a situation as in the wild, they may not reach their ultimate max size (and if the size is from something like Aqualog or DATZ, it's probably TL not SL - highly likely for L-numbers that haven't got a scientific description, so take off about 20% - 160mm SL for a 200mm TL fish is reasonable, I think).

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Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 19:17
by Unungy
Suckermouth wrote:There are pics in the Cat-eLog. It looks like it has fewer spots than the pictured fish.
Yes you are right. I could not see any pictures before.
maybe it is my browser lol

I will have more inclinations of L180.

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 20:09
by claro
Hi,

i try to find a solution to eL-number this my ancistrus (ist the same as your) in this topic:

http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... hilit=L213

i think that is undocumented L-number by genus Ancistrus dolichopterus.

Milan

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 20:24
by Unungy
I don't see no white on his tail? but yes it looks very similar otherwise.
Saul

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 27 May 2010, 20:45
by claro
White on tail have got only young, later haven't got white on tail and dots are smaller but base is all the time very dark.

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 28 May 2010, 00:25
by Unungy
Yes they look just like it. I think we have an ID
Thank you for sharing those amazing pictures.

Saul

Re: What Ancistrus?

Posted: 31 May 2010, 20:00
by Birger Amundsen
Might be the one.....