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I really fancy getting some , how available are they? What sort of price should I expect?

Greetings. I don't know about your side of the pond, but I believe there is only one person breeding them in the US and the only people who have them, obtained them from that person, as juveniles. I just ordered 8 - 1" juveniles at $35 US, each. A bargain at twice the price. - Frank

They dont sound too common then, I'll keep an eye out for them. Have you kept them before, anything from the norm?

matthewfaulkner wrote:They dont sound too common then, I'll keep an eye out for them.

Your chances of simply coming across them at your lfs are about the same as being struck by lightning, twice in the same day.

Have you kept them before, anything from the norm?

Well, I ashamed to say that I previously had a group of 8 juveniles, from the same breeder. During a period in which I was ill, I was not caring for them as I should and wound up losing 7 of the 8. - Frank

Coryologist wrote: Your chances of simply coming across them at your lfs are about the same as being struck by lightning, twice in the same day.

I see, well the lfs I go to the most is one of the best in the UK so I'll ask there.

matthewfaulkner wrote:I see, well the lfs I go to the most is one of the best in the UK so I'll ask there.

Which one may that be?

Consider that if Frank is paying $35 each for the fish, if the seller were to sell them to a shop for retail, they would end up around the $100 mark. Last time I checked, $100 made about £60. So you'd be looking at the better part of £300 for 5 fish.

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Mats

matthewfaulkner wrote:I see, well the lfs I go to the most is one of the best in the UK so I'll ask there.

I could be wrong but I am not aware of any commercial importation of this species. I believe they were brought back from a collection trip, spawned by the collector and then doled-out to a few select breeders.

Be advised, C133's are very similar looking and have started to be imported on a fairly regular basis.

Good luck in your hunt.

Cheers,

Frank

Frank, do you agree with me that the Rio Negro mentioned in the Cat-eLog is not the big Rio Negro that flows between Southern Venezuela and Brazil? [The "big" Rio Negro is where it's listed in the occurrence database, but I think it's wrong...]

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Mats

MatsP wrote:Frank, do you agree with me that the Rio Negro mentioned in the Cat-eLog is not the big Rio Negro that flows between Southern Venezuela and Brazil? [The "big" Rio Negro is where it's listed in the occurrence database, but I think it's wrong...]Mats

Hi Mats. Honestly, that is an area of discussion to which I can only claim total ignorance, I'm embarrassed to say. If I were to offer an opinion, I'd be blowing smoke at you. That's just too far above my pay grade. - Frank

Coryologist wrote:Hi Mats. Honestly, that is an area of discussion to which I can only claim total ignorance, I'm embarrassed to say. If I were to offer an opinion, I'd be blowing smoke at you. That's just too far above my pay grade. - Frank

Fair enough - I will try to find out some other way - it's just that I've got a somewhat mixed message from the Cat-eLog data. On the one hand, it lists the Type Location as "Rio Negro, Brazil". But the "Distribution" field says "Peru/Bolivia". Now that is a few hundred or thousand miles apart... Unlikely that BOTH are correct...

But thanks for not blowing smoke - I'd rather have a "I don't know" than something "Made up". Oh, and best of luck in keeping/breeding them!

Edit: I figure the problem is in our "Distribution", as both Catalog of Fishes and Fishbase agrees on "Rio Negro, Brazil". So I have amended that [will be visible as soon as Jools gets round to approving it].

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Mats

MatsP wrote:

matthewfaulkner wrote:I see, well the lfs I go to the most is one of the best in the UK so I'll ask there.

Which one may that be?

Consider that if Frank is paying $35 each for the fish, if the seller were to sell them to a shop for retail, they would end up around the $100 mark. Last time I checked, $100 made about £60. So you'd be looking at the better part of £300 for 5 fish.

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Mats

Pier Aquatics.

If they end up being that price then I think they will be left on the 'shelf'. Im not too serious about getting them, I just liked the look of them and they look to get to a good size and dont mind higher temps. I really fancy some Brochis, for the size, but my tanks are too warm for them. I'll look at other big, higher temp corydoras.

Ive just looked through the Clog, and it says that temp range is up to 28 degrees. I thought that they needed cooler temps, obviously not. What sort of price would you expect for them?

Price for B Splendens does seem to vary from one store to the next & it does depend on the size of the specimens being offered for sale. As an example £3.50 each for little ones

matthewfaulkner wrote:Ive just looked through the Clog, and it says that

Brochis splendens

temp range is up to 28 degrees. I thought that they needed cooler temps, obviously not. What sort of price would you expect for them?

As Richard says, price varies - mainly depending on the size of the fish [this is a side-effect of the fish being larger -> fewer fish in a bag from the exporter/wholesaler -> more overhead in shipping costs etc]. I've seen pricese from 3-4 quid up to about 20 quid each for quite large ones.

My B. splendens are in a 28'C tank, and have been at that temperature for at least 4 years now.

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Mats

Nice fish C parallelus

C. parallelus are being bred in Germany and the USA. Those in the US are F1 generation from the German breeder.

As far as I know there have not been any commercial imports of this species into the UK.

The true location for the species is: - Brazil, Est. Amazonas, Rio Içana, upper Rio Negro and probably only a few tributaries are the habitat of this rare species. It is occasionally sympatric with Corydoras incolicana.

Brochis are a whole new topic, They were originally described from Brazil, Rio Tocantins (type locality), Rio Paraguai near Caceres; Specimens are also being collected from Peru, Rio Ampiyacu, Rio Nanay, Rio Ucayali; Ecuador, Rio Napo, these are more likely to be the ones we see in the hobby today and are somewhat larger than the described specimens. There are also two more C. splendens look a likes from Bolivia CW034 & CW035.

Ian

These C.parallelus are so gorgeous,i love to have a shoal of them in my tank.

i have heard this cory is going for 1000 CNY in mainland China, that is about $150 USD a piece. Although its available in China, availability still very low.

cmstwc wrote:that is about $150 USD a piece.

Like I said - my $35 US was a bargain. They will arrive on Tuesday. - Frank

cmstwc wrote:i have heard this cory is going for 1000 CNY in mainland China, that is about $150 USD a piece. Although its available in China, availability still very low.

Damn, I have a fortune swimming around here

Birger Amundsen wrote:Damn, I have a fortune swimming around here.

Well, Birger. Someone recently contacted me about sending 10 of CW016 to Japan for $200 US, each. I'm not going to do it, but yes, suddenly I feel very wealthy. lol. - Frank

P.S. If I had any previous experience in shipping to Asia, I would certainly do it. Just not willing to gamble.

Frank.... I`m in a lifelong debt to you for sending me CW016, they are doing great BTW

Birger Amundsen wrote:Frank.... I`m in a lifelong debt to you for sending me CW016, they are doing great BTW

Don't be silly. You reciprocated with a very beautiful fish. I am quite pleased. I'll be even more pleased when I can get the guppies and angelfish out of their tank so they may have an honest shot at spawning. Any day, now. - Frank

Might get some more for You Frank?

Coryologist wrote:

Birger Amundsen wrote:Frank.... I`m in a lifelong debt to you for sending me CW016, they are doing great BTW

Don't be silly. You reciprocated with a very beautiful fish. I am quite pleased. I'll be even more pleased when I can get the guppies and angelfish out of their tank so they may have an honest shot at spawning. Any day, now. - Frank

Kold water my friend.....

Coryologist wrote:

cmstwc wrote:that is about $150 USD a piece.

Like I said - my $35 US was a bargain. They will arrive on Tuesday. - Frank

yes, Frank.

I was surprised when I saw that deal(the one you got) on AB for that cheap. I was gona go for it, but you know, it was before new year, everyone need $$$.

Well, my fish are due to arrive in the morning. The breeder was generous enough to add 3 extra. I will have an even dozen, with the one that survived my original mishap. I could not be happier. - Frank

Fish arrived, safe and sound.

Next on my "wish list?" CW012. I really want to acquire this fish. - Frank

Frank..... First one to get it LOL

BTW: congrats on the new fish.

Birger Amundsen wrote:Frank..... First one to get it LOL

You already have this fish? If so, you better spawn them - if you hope to get any more CW016's from me.

BTW: congrats on the new fish.

Thanks. I can't stop looking at them. They are so beautiful. lol. - Frank