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Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 06 Feb 2010, 10:55
by Luis.Ventura
Hey guys i´m sorry the bothering but i´m being reading some stuff on the L329 Baryancistrus beggini but i can´t find any info about breeding.

His page says unreported but like everione know that info isn´t accurate has many already breed others species and we still have the unreported thing in their pages.

does anyone have any information about them? or any updated page/something?

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 06 Feb 2010, 11:20
by DutchFry
Hi there,

In Ingo Seidel's book 'Guide to L-catfishes' from Back to Nature you can read this species is probably bred for the first time in the Basel zoo in Switzerland.

the adult fish were 8 to 10 cm TL, water was very soft and temperature was around 28-30 degrees Celsius. Per spawning there were around 10 juveniles, which were raised by feeding a self made mix of protein and vegetable manner.

that's all the book says about this lovely little fish!

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 06 Feb 2010, 21:12
by Luis.Ventura
i have the aqualog loricariidae and it gives some info but not all the necessary
in the net hardly i get anything

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 06 Feb 2010, 21:28
by MatsP
The problem with getting information about fish that has only been bred by one or a few people is that there is very little information. So it's a case of both finding the information, and then understanding what part of that information is actually useful.

I'm not aware (other than what DutchFry just posted) of anyone breeding these. Baryancistrus are not commonly bred in general, so it's not surprising that this species hasn't been bred much either.

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Mats

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 06 Feb 2010, 22:48
by Luis.Ventura
bah
i am looking for a unusual catfish like the blue panaque where i could keep a group and whit some dedication being able to breed them.
other options would be
L168 Butterfly
L200 i think it would be to big for my tank (100/55/55)
L091 Leporacanthicus triactis same thing
L104 Panaque maccus doesn´t apeal me

i don´t know

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 06 Feb 2010, 23:05
by MatsP
shouldn't be difficult to breed, but still a bit of a challenge.

As you say, most and are mostly growing a bit larger than what I'd recommend for the tank - although it's a very nice size tank. or would be more suitable.

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Mats

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 06 Feb 2010, 23:45
by Birger
bah
i am looking for a unusual catfish like the blue panaque where i could keep a group and whit some dedication being able to breed them.
An unusual catfish often means there is not much information on them.

Why don't you have them breed and then you could be the one giving information. :)

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 07 Feb 2010, 00:26
by andywoolloo
all I have read shows they are hard enough to keep alive let alone breed.

beautiful pl*co tho.

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 07 Feb 2010, 07:39
by 2wheelsx2
I think they are difficult to acclimatize, but once they're settled they're pretty hardy. Mine never made it past the transition, but I want to try again when they become available to me again.

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 07 Feb 2010, 08:48
by Borbi
Hi,

here´s a report/thread on breeding "Baryancistrus" beggini:
http://www.l-welse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17009

Cheers, Sandor

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 07 Feb 2010, 10:04
by Luis.Ventura
i already read that ty

sadly mats that specimens are not available to me, i will try to bring some L329 and L168, and see how it is going to work, theyare all wild caught.
i still have to think this trugh i need to make up my mind untill 12 this month and will receive them at 28º i think.

so if anyoen have any other ideas please say so i´m all open.

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 01:43
by L-ko
Hi,

You will find some information on the breeding of L239 there.
If you have specific questions, add them here.

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It's a L239 at 13 days, large 16 mm.

Greetings
Elko

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 12:59
by Luis.Ventura
I am still reading like a bookstore maggot, so i got confused (to much info most of it not realy supporting each other).

I was thinking that aclimatizxation was one thing, after reading i got lost and i can´t find nowhere prosedue to aclimatize baryancistrus (L239)

Could some kind soul tell me what and how to do it?

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 13:33
by MatsP
Well, I don't think there is a set recipe for acclimatization (in any fish). The principle, however, is to get the fish used to it's new environment, feeding properly, etc.

This can be difficult at times, and giving it "nice" food is a good way to start. What is nice for a , I'm not entirely sure. The main long-term diet should be primarily vegetarian, that's for sure.

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Mats

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 14:37
by Luis.Ventura
Thanks Mats.
There is something... a mix of things that we can put in a stone cover with the white part of the egg and dry it, use that to start to feed them right? what ingredients does that mix have?

this is that tank where i was thinking in putting them, currently it only have 4 woodshrimps, a colony of red cherrys and a shoal of adult Corydoras Stebai (6).
it have loads of caves and dark places.
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I will replace the gravel for sand soon.
What you guys think of it? do you think its suitable(100x50x50)?

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 14:43
by bamboosticks
Ignoring its suitability, I think that looks like a great tank.

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 15:29
by MatsP
Yes, egg mixed with for example ground up Hikari Algae wafers would work. Or "Vegetable mash omelette" (mashed cooked vegetabled mixed with egg and "baked" in the microwave).

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Mats

Re: Baryancistrus beggini

Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 15:39
by Luis.Ventura
bamboosticks
:oops: Thanks

algae wafers :thumbsup:

they will come wild, i will ask 10 and they will arrive at 28 i hope.

please pray for me, that they arrive well and survive