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Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 20 Nov 2009, 12:24
by MonteSS
I am getting one of these today. I am getting it to keep in my unheated 75g with my Gymnogeophagus Cichlids. Is this an appropriate mix? It is supposed to be a dwarf catfish. Tanks has sand with driftwood and smooth river rock. I also have some cories in the tank

Anything else special I should know about them?

Thanks...Bill

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 20 Nov 2009, 21:09
by MonteSS
Fish arrived today. About 1.5". Interesting coloring

Image

....Bill

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 21 Nov 2009, 06:36
by nvcichlids
That substraight is extremely bright and is probally affecting the fish. Most catfish prefer a "darker" tank to stay active, and that white sand is hurting my eyes so I would only guess that it could affect the fish's natural behavior.

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 21 Nov 2009, 16:49
by MonteSS
Good call NV. The sand is not as white as the pic shows. I think I will move it to my fry tank.

The tank it eventually will go in has a dark sand and lots of rocks and caves. Just afraid it might get eaten as small as it is.

Thanks...Bill

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 21 Nov 2009, 21:27
by Martin S
Any other pictures? A side profile and one from the from would be good.
Looks very small - what size, about 1.5"TL? And how many did you get?
And yes, it definitely needs to be in a much less light environment - it's anticipated home sounds much more appropriate.
Martin

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 21 Nov 2009, 21:30
by The.Dark.One
That looks like Akysis maculipinnis to me.

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 21 Nov 2009, 21:55
by medaka
I have to agree with Steve,



Nice fish to have.. But although a small fish, They will eagerly feed in the night time hours on your shrimp and danio young, or anything it can fit into its mouth. My ones really appreciate me feeding them adult live brine shrimp.

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 24 Nov 2009, 02:17
by MonteSS
Sure looks like Akysis maculipinnis. Do you really think it is maxed out at 1.5?

Thanks...Bill

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 24 Nov 2009, 02:27
by nvcichlids
if it is an akysis, then yes it is maxed out. I did keep some small catfish with some gymnogeophagus species, but they grew a little bigger. I kept some bumblebee catfish (SA microglanis sp) and they did well with the gymnos

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 15:55
by medaka
nvchilids wrote:
if it is an akysis
The catfish pictured in this thread is undoubtedly Akysis maculipinnis.

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 23:01
by Silurus
Contrary to popular opinion, I don't think the fish in question is A. maculipinnis, although the good news is it is an Akysis after all, and the husbandry of most species are pretty much the same.

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 26 Nov 2009, 11:56
by The.Dark.One
Silurus wrote:Contrary to popular opinion, I don't think the fish in question is A. maculipinnis, although the good news is it is an Akysis after all, and the husbandry of most species are pretty much the same.
Hi Silurus

Is the 'maculipinnis' issue another example of previous misidentifications, attributing a fish to an already described species? Do you think the 'maculipinnis' of the hobby is actually a new/other species? Or is it just a misidentification of the fish in this thread (is it a clavulus then?).

Thanks

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 26 Nov 2009, 14:18
by medaka
HI HH

I have to echo Steve's words here:
Is the 'maculipinnis' issue another example of previous misidentifications, attributing a fish to an already described species? Do you think the 'maculipinnis' of the hobby is actually a new/other species? Or is it just a misidentification of the fish in this thread (is it a clavulus then?).
I remember that we have discussed similar in a thread in 2005. Where I posted two Akysis which had differing marking's and raised the question regarding A clavulus; you replied then that they were both A maculipinnis
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... 13&t=13589
(The links are down to the photographs, as Jools had undated his gallery since then).

But here is one of the Akysis from that thread; note the two golden saddles along the dorsum surface which is also visible in the photograph posted here, which you identified as Akysis maculipinnis.
Image

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 26 Nov 2009, 23:23
by Silurus
All Akysis have the saddle-shaped markings, so the presence/absence of them is useless as a character. The reaon why I did not identify the fish that started this thread as A. maculipinnis is because A. maculipinnis tends to have longer saddles that are less contrasting. I am also not sure what the shape of the caudal fin is because it is collapsed, but it looks like it might be truncate (and not forked) to me.

Without collection locality as an aid, I can't really tell what it is....it's possibly A. ephippifer (if the caudal fin is forked) or A. varius (if the caudal fin is truncate), but I cannot be sure.

I think the fish in this thread is just misidentified. I have yet to see fish identified as A. maculipinnis in the trade being wrongly identified. This is because A. maculipinnis has a very restricted distribution (SE Thailand) and is not likely to be confused by anything else.

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 07:32
by MonteSS
Thanks for all the great info. I rarely see the fish and in very short glimpses when i turn the light on. I cant get a good look or better photo of it. If I get more info I will post it here.

Thanks...Bill

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 14:48
by MonteSS
Saw the lil guy today and grabs a pic.

Image

...Bill

Re: Glyptothorax sp. ‘gold & red’ ??

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 15:23
by Silurus
It's a little more reminiscent of the Burmese species such as or .