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identify this odd pleco?
Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 22:16
by sidguppy
this is a fish from a forum member of the Dutch cichlid forum
it is NOT a gibby, the overal shape doesn't match.......but the colors do!
it's some sort of Ancistrinae, but wich one?
the OP thouight it was some sort of Parancistrus, but it's not flat or broad enough.
it reminded me of Pseudacanthicus, but I can't see any spines.....
anyone fancy a search through the huge load of Loricariids?
Re: identify this odd pl*co?
Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 22:25
by Flex
In my opinion it's Megalancistrus parananus. But I'm not an expert.
Re: identify this odd pleco?
Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 22:27
by Mike_Noren
To me that looks like a deformed gibbiceps. I'd guess some sort of problem with the spine.
Re: identify this odd pl*co?
Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 01:35
by racoll
Re: identify this odd pl*co?
Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 02:23
by dconnors
It also looks like a deformed gibby to me as well.
Re: identify this odd pl*co?
Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 09:18
by racoll
It also looks like a deformed gibby to me as well.
It can't be. There are not enough dorsal fin rays (8 vs. 14).
Re: identify this odd pleco?
Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 12:09
by sidguppy
looks like a match indeed!
it has the same coloration, the same smooth headshape (the gibby has a 'bumpy' head) and the short stubby build and count of fin rays match.
Re: identify this odd pl*co?
Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 12:25
by racoll
Megalancistrus parananus looks like a match indeed!
Its not a
Megalancistrus. There are no cheek odontodes, and its nowhere near spiny enough.
Therefore, this is Hypostomini rather than Ancistrini.
Re: identify this odd pleco?
Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 15:32
by sidguppy
it's a young fish, not even 20 cm TL.
Megalancistrus grows to 60 cm SL, probably 70-75cm TL.......
I think the spines, especially those on the cheeks grow when it reaches maturity, not when it's a juvenile.
maybe not, but most "hairy" or "spiny" Loricariids grow all that spine stuff when they get into breeding size or age.
Re: identify this odd pl*co?
Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 15:49
by Borbi
Hi,
well, on this one, I would have to back Racoll.
Megalancistrus show their body spines very early, just like Pseudacanthicus. In these genera, they appear to be more of a protective thing rather than related to sexual maturity. That´s especially apparent in the second pic, no spiny "bumps" whatsoever.
Additionally, the cheek odontodes should be visible on the pictures, if it was Megalancistrus.
So, Hypostomus latifrons appears to be right, but I don´t have my literature around, at present.
Cheers, Sandor