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Whats needed...

Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 20:17
by Bradb
Hi again, I just want to know what people think is more important for pleco breeding, water flow into a cave or high levels of O2?
Thing is I know that some plecs, inparticular hyspancistrus thrive in highly turbulant areas, which means they probably breed easier in a tank with high water flow...but do other families require this or is it just a mater of high O2 and a spawning trigger :?:

eg. A friend of mine has spawned and raised both L260 and L134 in high water flow tanks.
And done the same with both of these in a 'quiet' tank with high surface adgetation but little under the surface and vertually no current into the cave. :D

Does anyone else run similar set ups? :?

Re: Whats needed...

Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 09:59
by MatsP
In nature, highly turbulent/fast flowing water equals high dissolved oxygen content. In fish-tanks, we can sometimes achieve one without so much of the other, but it's nearly impossible to not have SOME of both combined.

Based on what I know, almost all Loricariidae require high DO levels. The high flow of their natural habitat is a side-effect, but there's nothing bad about having a high flow in the tank.

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Mats

Re: Whats needed...

Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 20:58
by Lloydy
What's the best way to increase DO?

I use 2 air stones + a powerhead to increase flow/get more oxygen into the water but always happy to hear suggestions

Re: Whats needed...

Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 22:56
by Hitch
In my 30 gal Hypan tank, I use 2 Aquaclear 30 powerheads placed in the middle of the height of the tank that blasts O2 into the water via the air intake tube. Don't have a device to measure exact DO level, but I am betting the aquaclears are blasting enough O2 into that water.

Re: Whats needed...

Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 01:35
by Shane
What's the best way to increase DO?
Take a look here
http://www.planetcatfish.com/shanesworl ... ved+oxygen

-Shane

Re: Whats needed...

Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 01:42
by Haavard Stoere
I use these and homemade equivalents in all my tanks. I also have a lot of surface movement, but I would not be without the diffusors.

Re: Whats needed...

Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 05:44
by apistomaster
My set ups all include one airlift large sponge filter, one large sponge filter driven by a MaxiJet 600 power head and one vigorously bubbling airstone. i consider a good current and lots of aeration to be all important in providing for their basic needs.
I use the above combination for all my tanks that are 20 gal long to 40 gal breeders. I am breeding L260, L333 and L134 successfully in all these sizes of tanks plus one 29H.
L134 are in a 20 long.(5)adults
L260 are in the 29H.(6) "
L333 are in a 40 gal breeder.(7) "

Re: Whats needed...

Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 09:25
by MatsP
My tanks have air-stones and quite a bit of circulation from either filters or separate circulation pumps (or both in some cases).

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Mats

Re: Whats needed...

Posted: 02 Jul 2009, 21:25
by jeff@zina.com
Haavard Stoere wrote:I use these and homemade equivalents in all my tanks. I also have a lot of surface movement, but I would not be without the diffusors.
Any photos or DIY details about your home made versions?

Thanks,

Jeff

Re: Whats needed...

Posted: 03 Jul 2009, 11:10
by Haavard Stoere
Any photos or DIY details about your home made versions?

Thanks,

Jeff
Sometime next week I will make a 3400lph diffusor for my new tank from standard pvc parts. I will post pictures of the process there:
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... =4&t=26493