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Pterygoplichthys scrophus / chocolate pleco
Posted: 01 Apr 2009, 08:36
by chemma
Hi,
Can anyone tell me, do you think my 5cm chocolate pleco is Pterygoplichthys scrophus. My local fish shop tells me it is a hypostomus, but the little fella has 11 rays on his dorsal fin which seems to indicate Pterygoplichthys. He is mottled brown. He has two ?nasal flutes towards front of head. I have had him since January and (s)he has grown close to 2cm since then.
Sorry I don't know how to make the pictures bigger
Thanks in advance!
Emma (beginning catfish keeper
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Re: Pterygoplichthys scrophus / chocolate pleco
Posted: 01 Apr 2009, 09:45
by MatsP
Hard to say from those pictures. Assuming you have bigger pictures locally, you may be able to upload the pictures directly into the post (using the "upload attachment" in the tab below the box you type in the text into).
It doesn't quite look like a P. scrophus to me, and it's entirely possible that it is a genuine Hypostomus species. It's quite easy to tell Pterygoplichthys from Hypostomus, as the former has 10-14 rays in the dorsal (back) fin, whilst Hypostomus has 7 (it's often easier to count these on a sharp photo than it is from looking at the fish - but with experience you can tell simply because the dorsal fin is much longer on the Pterygoplichthys species).
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Re: Pterygoplichthys scrophus / chocolate pl*co
Posted: 01 Apr 2009, 10:24
by Silurus
It looks like either
or
to me.
Re: Pterygoplichthys scrophus / chocolate pl*co
Posted: 01 Apr 2009, 10:35
by chemma
Chocolate has 11 dorsal rays. Below is a link to bigger picture on my facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1 ... =633064439
Re: Pterygoplichthys scrophus / chocolate pl*co
Posted: 01 Apr 2009, 10:41
by Silurus
That's not a P. scrophus, I'm afraid. I still stand by my guesses.
Re: Pterygoplichthys scrophus / chocolate pleco
Posted: 01 Apr 2009, 10:58
by MatsP
I agree with the master^WSilurus.
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Re: Pterygoplichthys scrophus / chocolate pl*co
Posted: 01 Apr 2009, 13:48
by Chrysichthys
P. scrophus has much more of an "armoured" look to it. It's also a lot more expensive (unless you happen to get lucky and find one in a batch of commons).
Re: Pterygoplichthys scrophus / chocolate pl*co
Posted: 02 Apr 2009, 09:46
by chemma
Thanks for everyone's help!
Looking at the pictures of P. pardalis, that's who Chocolate looks like.
Thanks again
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Re: Pterygoplichthys scrophus / chocolate pl*co
Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:21
by Shaun
The fish being sold as "Chocolate Plecos" in Oz are, as everyone has said, P. pardalis. Just a line-bred colour variation...
The bad news is: yours isn't even one of those! Its just a regular P. pardalis
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I'd have a word to the shop.
The "Chocolate" ones seem to have dissappeared over the last 5 years or so as well...only seen a couple recently, big and old-looking. No juveniles.
Shaun
Re: Pterygoplichthys scrophus / chocolate pl*co
Posted: 05 Apr 2009, 01:28
by chemma
The bloke at the pet shop just said it was a "hypostomus spp" when I rang back to check the scientific name. It was a young fella that mentioned it was a choclate pleco. I like him chocolate or not, but it would be nice to know exactly what you are buying
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