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please id

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 06:29
by panaquej
hi. can you please help me id this catfish? got this from a lfs. thanks!

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Re: please id

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 06:53
by Silurus
This is a pimelodid hybrid. crossed with another pimelodid genus, perhaps.

Re: please id

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 06:55
by Silurus
On second thought, this might be the TSN X niger hybrid discussed here.

Re: please id

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 07:08
by Birger
Possibly one of these

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/ge ... nus_id=116


Edit: oops....HH is way ahead of me

Re: please id

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 11:27
by Richard B


You can see the body scutes on the pale body beneath the dorsal

Re: please id

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 16:11
by sidguppy
it's a good idea to return this to the shop as fast as you can!

both parents are able to reach 4 feet.
the Pseudoplatystoma fasciatum already is a catfish of respectable size; the Oxydoras niger can and does reach twice the weight and girth of an adult TSN

if you doubt this, well, here's a picture of both parental species taken by yours truly:
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/im ... ge_id=3881
the little squirt on the left is a 3.5 foot TSN. the head of the niger is almost as large as my own.
the hose you see in the background is a 2" gardenpond hose, largest diameter available in the shop.

photo was taken at Verduijns.

given the fact that hybrids often grow faster and larger than both parental species -this is called hybrid vigor- you can easily end up with a 4-5 feet long catfish with the size of a baby bottlenose dolphin and the weight of a fully grown adult male German Shepherd dog...... :shock:

not something you can keep in any normal sized home aquarium!

Re: please id

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 14:53
by panaquej
it's currently 6 inches now. oh no. you think it would really grow that big? i was hoping this would fall under the dwarf doras species. tank mates right now include synodontis and an 8 inch african arowana. it feeds on small guppies but it also takes pellets and frozen blood worms.

Re: please id

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 15:03
by Martin S
panaquej wrote:it's currently 6 inches now. oh no. you think it would really grow that big? i was hoping this would fall under the dwarf doras species. tank mates right now include synodontis and an 8 inch african arowana. it feeds on small guppies but it also takes pellets and frozen blood worms.
Sadly, yes. It is a very unusual looking fish, but as already stated, it will outgrow any home aquaria very quickly.
Unless you can provide a very large (and i mean large) pond to house it, you need to find it a suitable home now before it outgrows your existing setup.
Martin

Re: please id

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 17:15
by grokefish
On second thought, this might be the TSN X niger hybrid discussed here
WTF?

Now I have seen what I never wanted to see.

Matt

Re: please id

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 17:17
by Richard B
What's the weather/climate like in the Philippines? It might well survive in a garden pond of 20x10 feet if you have the space

Re: please id

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 18:05
by Martin S
Richard B wrote:What's the weather/climate like in the Philippines?
Sorry, slightly off topic, but it's got to be warmer than the UK :lol:

Re: please id

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 19:49
by Richard B
Martin S wrote:
Richard B wrote:What's the weather/climate like in the Philippines?
Sorry, slightly off topic, but it's got to be warmer than the UK :lol:
Definately "slightly off topic" but it did make me chuckle! :wink:

Re: please id

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 19:55
by Richard B
grokefish wrote:
On second thought, this might be the TSN X niger hybrid discussed here
WTF?

Now I have seen what I never wanted to see.

Matt
Matt - apart from this "abomination" there are a couple of things you might not have seen somewhere in the forums (laziness prevents me from finding them)

RTC x pangasiid hybrid - pics & discussion
Pangasiid x clariid hybrid - revealled in discussion by Silurus
Another one i can't remember - pic & discussion - produced for consumptive purposes

Just a few Dr Frankensteins playing God........ :(

Re: please id

Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 05:31
by panaquej
it's around 23 degrees on average and reaches about 19 at night. quite cold considering our normal weather is 32 degrees. i'll transfer this fish to a pond when it gets really big.