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tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 19:53
by simotastic
yesterday i was rearranging my tank and i had my hand in the water, next i felt something pressing agains my skin on my hand and then a sharpe nip it was one of my tatia perugiae biting me the skin has a red mark and for about 1cm around it the skin has gone very very dry should i be worried? has anyone else every been bitten by one of these weird fish the only other fish ingeries ive had is for a weaver fish on my big toe by luckly it does not hurt nearly as much as that did :)

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 21:34
by Marc van Arc
I severely doubt that you were bitten; it's more likely that you got stung by the dorsal or a pectoral spine. It happens when rearranging a tank with fishes like these. This may hurt a little but there's nothing to worry about. Within a couple of days the red mark will be gone completely.

Btw: could you use some interpunction now and again?

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 23:15
by simotastic
you understood what i put ................................ so where is the problem thanks for the reply but it DID bite as i saw it do it and if you can read it and understand it y complain

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 23:50
by Marc van Arc
simotastic wrote:you understood what i put ................................ so where is the problem thanks for the reply but it DID bite as i saw it do it and if you can read it and understand it y complain
It's no complaint, it's a question (hence the question mark). Not all people on this site are from the UK and interpunction will certainly make better reading for them. There's nothing more to it.

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 23:56
by simotastic
i am not sure i fully understand the meaning of interpunction i thought it was grammer but if it is not please explain i just thought you where one of those grammer people who points out every little grammer mistake because they have nothing better to do ,this is not the case so please explain thanks simon

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 00:13
by Marc van Arc
Hello Simon,
Interpunction is the use of commas, full stops etc.
It's just that you write as you speak so to say, which is no problem when listening, but may be a problem when reading. This will probably make your sentences more difficult for non-UK people to understand because they become very long. Some people may not know where one sentence ends and a new one begins and could therefore not be able to reply, because your question or remark has become too vague for them.
At work I am a grammar person, but that is mainly because they pay me to teach my pupils well. As you are not my pupil, I have no intention to criticize you on your grammar :wink:

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 00:59
by MatsP
I'm with Marc here - and although I'm on the 14th year of residence in the UK and I knew English sufficiently to fool Swedish people that I was English/Irish if I wanted to when I still lived there 13+ years ago - it is not easy to read three or four lines of text with nothing to say where one sentence starts and the other ends. Whilst you may think this is a trivial matter of pointing out your mistakes, that is not my intention - I only point out trivial mistakes when Jools gets it wrong in the non-user written pages. It is however a courtesy to others to try to write as well as you can. If you have no idea at all where to put a '.' or '?', then I'm sorry for you. But if you are just plain lazy and think it's fine for others to just figure out what you mean, then you are doing yourself a disfavour, because many people will just simply switch off and ignore the post if the question is too hard to figure out.

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Mats

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 01:06
by Jon
I have been nipped by my colony before and it doesn't even break the skin, much less hurt. I agree that it is likely that you were pricked rather than bitten, but since, apparently, you saw it, I can offer no suggestions.

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 03:23
by worton[pl]
Hey,

possibly it is not a but something else. Have any photos of a fish?

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 10:23
by Marc van Arc
worton[pl] wrote:possibly it is not a but something else. Have any photos of a fish?
That's something I've been thinking about as well, but afaik there's no that looks like C. perugiae with regard to pattern.

To come back to Simon's initial question: I have several Tatia/Centromochlus groups, which I handfeed. Not because I like that, but because they are very keen on - for instance - bloodworms and appear at my fingers the moment they get the smell of the food. Being greedy eaters, they have a go at anything - including my fingers. But even my largest Tatia at the moment (T. intermedia) is unable to hurt me by biting.
I have been hurt by spines of fishes that hid in pieces of wood or plants that I took out of the tank without checking if there was a fish in it. Some felt like a needle; others felt like a bee sting. That depends on the species.

But - as Jon said as well - as you saw it bite you, there's nothing more I can say about it.
Unless, as suggested above, it's about another species.

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 01 Dec 2008, 01:37
by simotastic
OK i will try to improve my grammar.Just on another note, my tatia is fully grown. I purchased him when he was about 6cm long but now he is heading for 8cm long. in regards to hand feeding i have found that at times the fish don't seem to realise that there is food in the water so i took to feeding them defrosted bloodworm with a set of tongs. i place the tongs in front of the mouth and let them feed, then they seem to realise there is food and go out looking for the rest. maybe my big tatia thought i was feeding time.
Also i was not being lazy with grammar, i just thought that this was like other forums!

Also it is defo a tatia perugue, black hexagon shapes on a white background, stubby head, powerful swimmer, very nippy around other fish.

Also i have found that if you get one of those annoying bugs in your house that flys around and wont leave you alone, there's nothing more satisfying than catching it and throwing it in the tatia tank and watching them pull it limb from limb.

Don't moan about being humane either as i don't really care about the lives of flys spiders moths etc.

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 01 Dec 2008, 08:59
by Martin S
simotastic wrote: Also it is defo a tatia perugue, black hexagon shapes on a white background, stubby head, powerful swimmer, very nippy around other fish.
I'd say you have a rogue specimen then as I have never known mine be nippy! They will not come out with lights on, but with the tank lights off and the room lights on, they are happy to feed but then quickly disappear back into their 'homes'. The newer additions of are even more active at this time, but like the , are very nocturnal during lights on.
Sounds like yours is full grown - SL (length excluding the tail) is listed as 60mm (2.4") in the Cat-eLog.
Still be interesting to see a picture of yours - it sounds like a feisty individual!
Martin

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 01 Dec 2008, 10:19
by MatsP
simotastic wrote:OK i will try to improve my grammar. [.. snip ..]
Also i was not being lazy with grammar, i just thought that this was like other forums!

That is MUCH better. As I'm sure you've found out by now, this is not one of the "mainly teenagers that write text-speech", and most of us are pretty serious about our fish. I personally feel that this forum is better because of it... That is of course a matter of personal opinion - I'm sure those who frequent other forums really like those forums and the way that they write there.

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Mats

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 01 Dec 2008, 11:40
by Bas Pels
Another argument for using correct English is that this forum is used all over the globe, by many people who don't speak English natively

A correct phrase I don't know can be found in a dictionary, an incorrect one can not

Obviously, not all of us are able to write correctly, but those who can, please take the trouble

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 01 Dec 2008, 11:44
by MatsP
Bas Pels wrote:Another argument for using correct English is that this forum is used all over the globe, by many people who don't speak English natively

A correct phrase I don't know can be found in a dictionary, an incorrect one can not

Obviously, not all of us are able to write correctly, but those who can, please take the trouble
Yes, I think that point was mentioned in the first post by Marc that initiated the debate of "proper English".

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Mats

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 01 Dec 2008, 12:13
by simotastic
OK I UNDERSTAND LETS LEAVE IT AT THAT. BUT NOTE IF I USE INCORRECT GRAMMAR DON'T MENTION THIS SUBJECT AGAIN. I WILL DO MY BEST BUT WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND ALL MAKE MISTAKES, AND MY GRAMMER COULD BE BETTER BUT I AM NOT GOING BACK TO SCHOOL TO STUDY. :)

Re: tatia perugiae attacking hands?

Posted: 01 Dec 2008, 13:20
by MatsP
simotastic wrote:OK I UNDERSTAND LETS LEAVE IT AT THAT. BUT NOTE IF I USE INCORRECT GRAMMAR DON'T MENTION THIS SUBJECT AGAIN. I WILL DO MY BEST BUT WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND ALL MAKE MISTAKES, AND MY GRAMMER COULD BE BETTER BUT I AM NOT GOING BACK TO SCHOOL TO STUDY. :)
Sssch. Don't shout, please ... ;)

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Mats