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Leporacanthicus joselimai L264

Posted: 09 Jul 2003, 14:24
by Kotty
Can anyone tell me if male or female?

Ive read the article about them in the site about odontodes and head size/colouration but Im none the wiser.

Many thanks if you can help.

Alex

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Posted: 09 Jul 2003, 18:11
by Janne
The female to the left, the male is much more slender.
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You have to feed them better with prawns and mussels at least once a week and between that frozen artemia and that kind of food, dont forget some vegetibles now and then.

Janne

Posted: 10 Jul 2003, 07:09
by Yann
Hi!

From what I know, Leporacanthicus males ae slightly more spiny than the females and have a massiver appearance, especially a bigger head...
Cheers
Yann

Posted: 10 Jul 2003, 07:37
by Plec0maniac
yup, males have more odontodes and are spinier.. and slender body :) they love to chow on olmost anything, They love shrimps, mussels, wafers, veggies, etc :)

Posted: 10 Jul 2003, 08:02
by Kotty
As Ive got no tankmate to compare it to, its a bit tricky at the moment. Thanks a lot for the tips everyone.

Alex

Posted: 10 Jul 2003, 21:07
by Janne
I dont agree so much to that the males are more spinier compare to the female, it's so little so it's difficult to notice anyway.
And my female have a more massiver head and the male but the male have a slightly longer nose.
The pair in the photo shown above have spawn once and I'm waiting right now for the next attempt, they are around 15-16 cm or 6 inches.

Janne

Posted: 10 Jul 2003, 21:44
by BIGblue
My L-264 is only 2 inches long. Is he/she still too small to ID?

Posted: 11 Jul 2003, 18:52
by Yann
Hi Bigblue

Yes with 2inches , your fish is clearly too young to be sexually determined...
You shall wait for him/her to arrive to sexual maturity before being able to sex hom/her
cheers
Yann

Posted: 14 Jul 2003, 20:27
by Mirra
Janne wrote:You have to feed them better with prawns and mussels at least once a week and between that frozen artemia and that kind of food, dont forget some vegetibles now and then.

Janne
Sorry im new to this and to my L-264, but i want to get the food right.

So you are buying prawns and mussels from the human grocier store? And just put them in. Do you buy fresh or frozen?
And what is:
Janne wrote: that frozen artemia and that kind of food,

Janne
thanks

Posted: 14 Jul 2003, 20:28
by Silurus
Artemia=brine shrimp. Should be available in your LFS.

Posted: 14 Jul 2003, 20:52
by Mirra
:D :D ohhhhh i see now

So should my L264 go after the blood worms when put in the tank?
Mine seems to ignore them. or do they wait till the lights are off?

Posted: 15 Jul 2003, 09:52
by Plec0maniac
hi they love to chow on meaty food.. When did u get ur L264? they might b just stressed or adjusting to there new habitat.. well when all turns out well they will love to chow on anything that u give them :) gudluck

Posted: 16 Jul 2003, 09:29
by Kostas
Leporacanthicus also like snails.

Posted: 16 Jul 2003, 10:27
by Yann
Kostas and or others!

Have you witness that behavior in your tank?
If yes what type of snail did they eat?
And what size are the snail that are eaten?
Regarding the Leporacanthicus, have you seen them eating snail at any age?
Cheers
Yann

Posted: 16 Jul 2003, 17:53
by pturley
I routinely add snails to both my L. galaxias (breeding attempt in progress) and L-264 groups (4 fish each). Both groups eat them, L. galaxias appear to be more actively preying on them, but then they are more acclaimated and much less shy.
And yes, I have seen them in the process of eating them. They whittle them out of the shells, leaving the shell largely intact.

I intend to try the mussels on the halfshell approach for the L. galaxias to ripen the females. I just have to get over to the seafood counter at the grocery store some night this week. They routinely get fish cuttings (marine fish only) and the occasional scallop/shrimp/prawn.

I'll keep you all posted.

Sincerely,
Paul E. Turley

Posted: 16 Jul 2003, 21:15
by Yann
Hi PAul!

Thanks for the inforamtion!
Do they eat all type of snail?
Or do they have their preferences??
Cheers
Yann

Posted: 16 Jul 2003, 21:40
by pturley
They have eaten red ramshorn snails and small to medium sized Japanese* Live-bearing snails.

(*=I don't know if they are from Japan or not, they are a 1" diameter trap-door apple snail that bears live young.)

Another aquarist I know said they ate all the Malaysian livebearing snails in his tank but I cannot confirm this as I don't have a problem with them right now.

Sincerely,
Paul E. Turley

Posted: 17 Jul 2003, 11:19
by Kostas
Hi,
They eat all types of snails of all sizes.
have you seen them eating snail at any age
Yes they eat snails at any age.
And yes i have seen my Leporacanthicus eating snails many time.They prefer them from any other food.