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Hello guys,
please help me to identificate this otocinclus.
Jewel could you let me know your email address?

The only Oto that he looks vaguely like is , but it's still not at all the same.

could it be ?

Looks like a good match to me, but I'm far from anywhere near an expert on this subject.

thank you for your help.
I would say it is different than Hypoptopoma sp(4), but of course they looks similar. But not the same.
Thank you

Hi!!

For me this is more of an undescribed species of the genus Nannoptopoma!!
Cheers
Yann

Can't help with the id, but it is a stunning little fish. Would love to see these available.

They are pretty fish. I know a group of people in Norway thet went and collected these in Peru last year.

I am pretty sure this is a stressed one of these:

Jools

I have only seen Nannoptopoma sp. "Peru" dead, but in death they had the same colors as in life, just paler.

Especially the change from uniformly colored head to striped head seems to me to be unlikely to be due to stress; unless you know that this species can indeed change color like this I'd be more inclined to think this is a separate and new Nannoptopoma.

MiguelPeru wrote:Jewel could you let me know your email address?

Jools' PC email is webmaster@planetcatfish.com

I agree with Mike on the stripes appearing on the head during stress. It seems strange that this could happen, so I also think it may be a new species.

I am pretty sure this is a stressed one of these: Nannoptopoma sp`peru`

Jools


Dear Jools,
I think you are wrong. The fish you are talking about it is VERY DIFFERENT COLORATION, also that fish comes from Rio Tigre at Iquitos.
The fish I posted it is surely a Nannoptopoma sp. but this one comes from Tarapoto place. VERY far away from Iquitos and it different geographical area. It is not stressed one, the fish always show that colour, even in the tanks of my friends in other countries.

Thanks

Miguel

MiguelPeru wrote:I think you are wrong.

Yeah, well it wouldn't be the first time. Look forward to seeing the fish in aquarium stores to have a look at it. I still don't see much of a difference, and I don't think anyone can make a call on it until both (or one) of the species is described...

How do you mean different geography? Just that the places are far apart, or that they are different biotopes?

Jools

I do agree Miguel should export some of these

I believe I know a nice place, somewhere in NL

I think and agree with all of you thinking this is a "new species" of Nannoptopoma, I would treat it as "new" as long no one can prove it's anything else. Better to use another name in the trade then use the same as N. sp "peru" which just will confuse us.

Janne

Hi!!

I have seen alive this species since early last year... very thinny little guys, all I had seen were not exceeeding the 3cm TL!!!
A possible name for the Cat elog would be Nannoptopoma sp (Peru 2) or (white) as they are sold as this...
Cheers
Yann

Well, I'll put it in as a new entry in the cat-elog. Nice to be wrong and get a new species out of it.

I quite favour Nannoptopoma sp. "Peru II" rather than Nannoptopoma sp. "white". Maybe Nannoptopoma "Peru white"... Decisions, decisions. What's it being exported as?

Jools

Jools

Except I get a page no found

Martin S wrote:Except I get a page no found

Fixed now, I just need to move over the second image as well.

Jools

Miguel, can you send in your pictures to webmaster@planetcatfish.com? I'm sure Jools will appreciate it very much. http://www.planetcatfish.com/core/pp_contribute.php

loachy_406 wrote:Miguel, can you send in your pictures to webmaster@planetcatfish.com? I'm sure Jools will appreciate it very much. http://www.planetcatfish.com/core/pp_contribute.php

Yup, indeed, but Yann already supplied some... Getting some data in too would be good.

Jools

The more, the merrier, the better! I'm sure Miguel can get some data when he's kept them and got to know them. Maybe even breeding if we're extemely lucky!

A friend of mine brought home some of them from one of his trips to Peru. Someone bid him a good price on all, so I didn`t get any. They are quite difficult to keep, as I`w heard from the one who bought them.
If I`m not wrong, they go by the name of Otocinclus "Pin" in Peru?

Jools wrote:

Nannoptopoma sp`peru_white`

Jools

I thought you were going to use the my pictures

He might eventually. The Mighty Jools has lots* to do and everything takes time.

*lots really meaning tonnes

Hi Miguel!!!

You can still send your pictures to Jools, he will be happy to put them onlline...
Just proceed as it has been said twice in the topic...
Cheers
Yann