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pleco Better Picture.

Posted: 13 May 2008, 07:38
by pingpong
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Crappy pic but can you point me in the right direction while battery on camera is charging. Thank you ./

Re: pl*co

Posted: 13 May 2008, 07:59
by Plecofanatic1989
IMO either Panaque L204 or Hypancistrus sp. I'm leaning more towards Hypancistrus, I can't tell though.
Good luck
Josh

Re: pl*co

Posted: 13 May 2008, 09:46
by Loracidlover
Need a focused pic really, but from this I'd guess a young L204 'flash' panaque

Re: pl*co

Posted: 13 May 2008, 11:36
by drpleco
Tough to tell for sure, but 204, 401, and 260 are all good candidates. I'm leaning towards 260, but that's a wild guess. I bet it's one of those three, however.

Re: pl*co

Posted: 13 May 2008, 15:10
by pingpong
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Little clearer. Thought he might have ick looking at photo but it seems to be little bristles all over his body with the flash reflecting the water.

Re: pl*co Better Picture.

Posted: 13 May 2008, 17:02
by DutchFry
could be L204 but the filaments on the tail are missing. maybe it's a Panaque maccus L104!

Re: pl*co Better Picture.

Posted: 13 May 2008, 21:10
by drpleco
Looks like a male dwarf panaque of some sort, but not L204 (belly is different - tail filaments can be missing on 204's due to bad water or fighting), and probably not L104 panaque maccus (too black/white vs. brown/gold).

It's a sexy little bugger, whatever it is.

Re: pl*co Better Picture.

Posted: 14 May 2008, 00:38
by pingpong
Might be missing tail due to fighting, Not sure. He is in with a larger royal pleco of some kind. Don't think he had the long tail fins when I got him but got them both at the same time. The tank is over filtered with weekly water changes so he isn't in bad water. Looks like the panaque but his white stripe seems thicker to me.

Re: pl*co Better Picture.

Posted: 14 May 2008, 18:35
by Janne
Could you take a picture of the teeths so we can see them clearly? A picture when the fish is in the aquarium so we can see his bodyshape more natural, I think it's a Hypancistrus species and not a Panaque but even if the last pictures is quite good it's hard to make any correct id.

Janne

Re: pl*co Better Picture.

Posted: 14 May 2008, 20:58
by husky_jim
The fish is for sure not L204.At that size the male L204 does not 'exhibit' odontodes and spines.It is very small in order to be a mature male Panaque L204....

As Janne said i also suspects Hypancistrus...

I have seen identical fish to the last Heiko Bleher's seminar in Athens....

Dentition pics will help.....

Re: pl*co Better Picture.

Posted: 14 May 2008, 23:33
by pingpong
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Can't get a close up with my camera. Hope these help. Best I can do. I don't think he is going to get much bigger. Had hiim for 9 months and hasn't really grown anymore that I have noticed. Thank you again.

Re: pl*co Better Picture.

Posted: 14 May 2008, 23:59
by drpleco
Hypancistrus L316 perhaps?

Doesn't look much like a dwarf panaque anymore...the earlier mouth shots had me fooled.

Re: pl*co Better Picture.

Posted: 15 May 2008, 01:06
by Yann
Hi!!!
Yeap
Morphology and pattern seems to indicate Hypancistrus sp L316!!
Cheers
Yann

Re: pl*co Better Picture.

Posted: 15 May 2008, 04:45
by pingpong
I thought this one would be easy. Didn't realize how many look like him until I followed your leads. Think the L 316 is the match. Thank you again.

Re: pl*co Better Picture.

Posted: 15 May 2008, 11:44
by Janne
It could be but the the larger eyes disturb me, they seems to be to large for L316. It could maybe be instead that sometimes also can be black and white instead of the more normal colouration darkbrown and dirtywhite.

Janne

Re: pl*co Better Picture.

Posted: 23 May 2008, 02:06
by Yann
Hi!!

Yeap there were those eyes that were disturbing me also...
a young L401 was a possible idea...and so was H debilittera

Cheers
Yann