That's a very bold (or relaxed) little Lucipinnis (not petricola)!
Re: too cute!
Posted: 16 Feb 2008, 22:20
by andywoolloo
wow, how do you do that? they look so similar? Amazing.
Re: too cute!
Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 09:19
by Richard B
Some individuals are a bit more difficult to identify but mostly its fairly straightforward.
Having 9 lucipinnis & 2 petricola together in my display tank (along with all my other tanganyikn synos) shows the differences & it becomes second nature. Over time there are little things that become apparent - swimming motion even .
That said Lucipinnis are far more common than petricloa. Lucipinnis are still sold as petricola in the trade & for years were known as petricola "dwarf" before being finally described scientifically in December 06.
I've kept synos for years & you get to see most things - species, variants etc. - then again i can't tell pl*cs or cories apart at all - each to their own
Re: too cute!
Posted: 25 Feb 2008, 09:28
by jollysue
Great video!
Thanks Richard B. They looked like S. lucipinnus to me too. I think that the lucipinnus and pets look very different actually--so far in my limited experience.
Re: too cute!
Posted: 25 Feb 2008, 12:20
by Richard B
Agreed jollysue, most times it is not difficult to tell petricola & lucipinnis apart, but as with lots of fish, there are variations due to location etc & occasionally you might see one that is a bit trickier to say 100% which one it is.
Re: too cute!
Posted: 25 Feb 2008, 12:50
by jollysue
I really have no doubt of that--ids are not a specialty of mine. I am really at a loss very often from pics--notoriously deficient. The ones in the video just look so like my little guys and not at all like my bigger guys. So far the lucipinnus also seem to have a different/more playful personality than my other Synos (multi, pets and unknown--assumed hybrid from the lps.) My lucipinnus play all the time.
Re: too cute!
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 03:27
by andywoolloo
lucipinnus... very cool. Are they hard to find? I have never seen them anywhere. They are adorable.
Re: too cute!
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 07:08
by jollysue
I got mine tank bred--very good quality and healthy--from aquariaman in Hawaii. I ordered them through a bid on AquaBid. I highly recommend aquariaman.
Where are you in CA, andywoolloo?
Re: too cute!
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 07:58
by andywoolloo
funny u ask that, I am very close to Fresno. I'll keep that in mind re aquariaman.
Re: too cute!
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 08:07
by jollysue
Yeah? In the San Juaquin Valley?
aquariaman/Darryl Tsutsui is on the top of my list as a fair and honest supplier of nice fish. Last I knew he was aquariaman@att.net
My C. lucipinnus are tank bred by a breeder in Hawaii. Petrocola and lucipinnus are not the same species. I do have wild caught pets.
Re: too cute!
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 08:29
by pintius
The synodontis in the vid is a Petricola
Re: too cute!
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 08:56
by jollysue
Really? I was pretty sure they are "dwarf petrocola" which are actually C. lucipinnus.
Re: too cute!
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 10:09
by pintius
Getting conflicting info on differentiating these two species. Got to admit the evidence is pointing towards Licipinnis -
Re: too cute!
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 10:41
by jollysue
I have both. They are often referred to as dwarf petrocola, but in reality they are a different species. And a darlin' little cat they are.
It took me quite some time and investigation to figure it out. I bought mine advertised as "dwarf petrocola." But eventually found out their correct ID.
Re: too cute!
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 13:08
by andywoolloo
I just can't believe how cute they are! If I ever have time for another tank and can find or install extra electrical outlets they will be my next catfish.
oh and Jools, i didn't know about the youtube tabs, I will do that next time, thanks. And JS thank you for the info on the two breeders or importers.
Re: too cute!
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 17:08
by Richard B
The fish in the vid at the start of this thread is lucipinnis - formerly known in catfish circles as "dwarf petricola", described by science in Dec '06 - it is still commonly sold in the trade as petricola.
Syno petricola is a larger, more scarce & expensive fish.