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L155

Posted: 08 Dec 2007, 20:50
by DragonRubyFire
:D Hello Everyone, How large does the L155 grow and does that include the over-all length of the tailfin :?: and has anyone heard of the Carachama Mama :?: I found this Pleco on the RiverWonders web site as L155A or is it just the same pleco :?:

Thanks to everyone in advance for the help :wink:

Posted: 08 Dec 2007, 21:11
by racoll
Hi.

Welcome to the forum. :D

L155 is . To my knowledge L155a is not an official L number. Exporters must be making up their own L numbers now :roll:

Perhaps is just not catchy enough, and L155a is :?:

Anyway, yes they do get that big, and probably bigger. Check out this picture of Myra Hindley here with an absolute whopper....

Image

Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 01:29
by DragonRubyFire
TY for the confirmation as I only have 120 gallon tank and this little beasty would ultimately suffer in time when it hits the limits of its growth in my tank and it will be awhile before I could afford a tank of suitable since these big guys. :wink:

Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 01:33
by DragonRubyFire
OOOOPS Where are my manners :oops:

TY for the Welcome and I look forward to more topics here on PlanetCatfish. :D

Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 06:36
by Shane
Carachama Mama
The local word for pleco combined with "Mama" is the common name for these spp throughout the Amazon. The idea being that, since they are the biggest sp found, all other plecos (Hypostomus, etc) are their babies.
Western science groups, distinguishes, and defines spp by their believed evolutionary history, which defines how we see and interpret the world around us. Other peoples throughout the world have very different ways of arranging the natural world with size often an important factor. The Yanomami place the freshwater dolphin, red tailed catfish, humans, jaguar and tapir in the same "family" as all are big. A red tail cat thus, in the traditional view, is more closely related to humans and jaguars than it is to say a pleco or doradid.
A herpetologist friend of mine did an ethno-taxonomic study with the Yanomami of turtles. There are 30 something turtle spp found where the Yanomami live. Guess what? They have two words for turtle, one translates as "big turtle" and another as "small turtle."
-Shane

Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 11:37
by racoll
Carachama....The local word for pl*co
Shane, is carachama the Spanish word for pleco and cascudo the Portuguese word?

Or is it not that simple?

Posted: 10 Dec 2007, 16:57
by Shane
Unfortunately, not that easy. Just like in English common names change from region to region with language and/or country not having much of an impact. Thus a Brazilian in Tabatinga and a Colombian in Leticia would likely use the same word, while a Colombian in the llanos would use corroncho, and a Colombian in the Magdalena would say armadillo del rio.
-Shane