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Are these Farlowella mariaelenae?

Posted: 26 Sep 2007, 03:54
by petesfish
I got these two fish from two different sources. This one was mixed in with Farlowella vittata.
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This one I just picked up at a club auction.
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Both appear to have three rows of belly scutes. Both ~6" long. What other info/photos do I need to make proper ID?

Pete

Posted: 26 Sep 2007, 08:22
by Norman
Hi Pete,

Typically for F.mariaelenae is the short snout-mouth length compared with the head length and a males snout wich is totally covered with small breeding odontodes.
A photo of the caudal fin can also give a hint.

best regards
Norman

Tail image

Posted: 28 Sep 2007, 03:50
by petesfish
This shows whole body of first fish including caudal.

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I think tail might have had longer tips at one point.

Pete

Posted: 01 Oct 2007, 10:26
by Norman
Hi Pete,

The coloration of the caudal fin of the specimen on your photo is similar to the description of RETZER & PAGE for F.mariaelenae.

best regards
Norman

Farlowella reference

Posted: 03 Oct 2007, 03:40
by petesfish
Thanks very much Norman

Is this the reference you used?

Systematics of the stick catfishes, Farlowella Eigenmann & Eigenmann (Pisces, Loricariidae)
ME Retzer, LM Page - Proc. Acad. Nat. Sci. Phila, 1996


Pete

Posted: 08 Oct 2007, 12:16
by Shane
Yes, these are F. mariaelenae. Looking at the first posting, I would hazard to say that the fish in the top photo is female and the lower a male.
-Shane