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The other panda who turned blue with Little Blue is starting to show the first symptom Little Blue was. Staying still and slowly his back end will drift up a bit, just like with Little Blue all the readings are spot on. I have no idea what to do. I took all the sand out of the tank so I could keep it super clean and changed the water anyway, I also added a general anti-bacterial at half dose. Is there anything I can do for these mysterious things or just wait for him to die and not move any fish in or out of the tank?

thanks. I've collected all the post of Little Blue and put them here: http://www.spodbox.org/~saphphx/LittleBlue.htm

I need help guys.

Tank Size: 24x12x12
Filter: Fluval 2
Substrate: Sand
Decor: PVC pipes, Terracotta plant pot
Plants: duck weed
Temp: 75F
pH: 7.2
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrate: 0.2ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Fish: 6 Clown Loachs, 7 corydoras panda, 12 Male N Endlers

I think that you have bought a batch of poor quality fish, there are a lot of farm bred fish coming into the hobby and from what i have seen the quality is not very good and the size I have seen is ridiculously small.

Something I would say, although there are others that would disagree and that is that keeping Botia's with Corydoras is a no no. They are both substrate dwellers but the Botia's grow far bigger and are at times quite aggressive, especially when competing for food. I have kept the small Botia sidthimonki with Corys in the past, thinking that they are small and would not do any harm, only to witness one attacking and taking an eye out of a C. schwartzi.

Ian

Hiya Ian

My pandas were microscopic when I got them! So sad. Any idea where I could get some better stock?

the clowns are moving to a bigger tank soon, I just worry that the bigger clowns will out eat the little ones. My husband keeps corys and clowns, will have to offer him a swap

Thanks so much!

I haven't gone through all of your previous posts, but I would just mention that methylene blue is very rough on filter bacteria. If I ever used it at all, it would only be as a last resort, and then only in a quarantine tank, checking nitrite and ammonia daily; and removing it with carbon if the levels sky-rocket.

Otherwise, this cure could prove worse than the disease.

I agree, methylene blue should only be used in a separarate tank. I usually just use an airstone in the quarantine tank and use water changes to dilute the pollution and replace the methyelene blue.

I have been seeing C. panda being sold at 5/8 in or less and at that small size they do not handle the stresses that are all part of their travels through the distribtion chain. They are often near death by the time they show up at your LFS.

it was a qt tank. Just lost the last of the origional three. I don't think I will be getting any more pandas. As a side note the others all look good and have grown quite a bit