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"Blue" Cory? Aspidoras?

Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 01:20
by PhaidOut
Ok, I just picked up a couple of these (all that were available to me) and I am trying to figure out what they are. They were on a distributor list as Blue Cories - that's all the LFS knows about them. I just have my crudy old digital at home and can't get a good picture of them...

To me they look like an Aspidoras. There are just 2. The first's body is a deep blue to almost black from the tail up to the dorsal fin and the second is blue maybe a 1/3 the way up. Thier head head is a grey with spots. The fins are clear. To me they have an aspi like mouth - definitely not your typical cory mouth. They are about an inch long and more enlongated then your typical cory too. Sorry I don't have a photo yet.

I would really like to figure out what they are. See if I can get a descent photo tomorrow, but if anyone has an idea what they might be and where to look info in the mean time...

Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 01:39
by Silurus
? These are sometimes known as blue corydoras.

Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 01:42
by PhaidOut
Not even close - no stripe at all, I'm working on getting a photo but this camera is junk...

Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 01:57
by PhaidOut
Best photo I could get so far. Had to use flash and it totally washed out the color...

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p148 ... uecory.jpg" border="0" alt="Blue Cory"></a>

I.D.

Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 02:27
by Coryologist
Hmmm. I do see head-spotting which coincides with C. similis, which is often imported as Corydoras violetta, the Violet Cory. I have never seen the term "Blue Cory" on any exporter's list, but they come up with new, ridiculous names on a weekly basis. Hope this helps. - Frank

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Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 02:44
by PhaidOut
Frank - bingo. That's it - when I seen the photo I took a better look at the mouth. And I would have to say there is no doubt in my mind. When they move around you can really see the color in thier body. The color to me is not what I would normally call violet as name suggest. To me I would think Deep Indigo or Blue Ink from a pen.

First new (to me) cory I have seen in a long time that aroused my interest. I don't think the photo does them justice - nice photo though. Now the research for me begins... (about them and where to get some more both) I am not at all familiar with them.

Thanks Pete

Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 02:47
by PhaidOut
No mention in the Cat-eLog?

C. similis

Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 02:57
by Coryologist
PhaidOut wrote:Frank - bingo. That's it - when I seen the photo I took a better look at the mouth. And I would have to say there is no doubt in my mind. When they move around you can really see the color in thier body. The color to me is not what I would normally call violet as name suggest. To me I would think Deep Indigo or Blue Ink from a pen.
lol. I understand, but keep this in mind. Many things effect what you perceive to be the true color of the fish. General health, recent diet, acclimation stress, age, substrate, tank light color temperature are most of the things, but there are others.
First new (to me) cory I have seen in a long time that aroused my interest. I don't think the photo does them justice - nice photo though.
I agree. That particular photo does not do them justice. I see, by the date, it was one of my earlier attempts with my first camera. Much noise in the image. I will update that shot, tomorrow. I think both my gear and my abilities are slightly improved since then.
Now the research for me begins... (about them and where to get some more both) I am not at all familiar with them.
Where are you located? I spawn this specie regularly as they are quite easy to get going. The best part is, once they get going, they spawn like clock work, every 2-3 weeks.

Frank

P.S. Another bad pic. My apologies. :-)

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Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 02:59
by Dave Rinaldo

Too Slow!

Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 03:03
by Coryologist
Dave Rinaldo wrote:
Hi Dave. A little slow on the draw, old man! :-)

Where's my C. simulatus I desperately need? Get it up. lol.

Hope you are well, Dave. - Frank

Oh. I see. You were providing a link - not an ID. My bad!!!

Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 04:30
by PhaidOut
Was doing some more digging and was makeing the connection to similis from my searches. The Photos are similar and color does depend on a lot of factors, just a lot more of the deep color on these right now then I have seen in most photos. Frank's shot is about the equal of my lesser colored one. But even the other photos I am seeing - I still like the fish a lot.

BTW Frank, not saying that is a bad photo by any means. lol Quite the contrary. I just don't think it captures what I am seeing... I especially like that fry photo. What setup do you use? I am guessing you have a pretty nice macro lense...

I am in Michigan. I get all over the southern part of the state. I'm not afraid to ship either. I just parted with my sterbai breeding group (always been my favorites - since I was about 10), a friend bought a LFS and is kicking his own fishroom into gear breeding for his store. Since he is focusing on providing hobbyists and people that like something a little different a local resource I made him a deal. Of course I started hunting for something else... These guys are certainly attractive to me and unusual on top of it. He is going to see if they are on any of his lists too.

Was thinking maybe about the albino Sterbai as an option, I bought 6 (I wanted to see them before going all out) but none of them lasted more then 10 days. Bad shipping for sure (unexpected temp drop with poor shipper locally) but they seemed fine and just started dying one by one. No obvious signs of disease, stress or outward signs of organ failure; they just dropped dead. I didn't disect them though, kind of wish I had but time limitations.... I guess they seem overly delicate, would have to breed some wild blood back into them.

C. similis

Posted: 03 Mar 2007, 13:38
by Coryologist
PhaidOut wrote:BTW Frank, not saying that is a bad photo by any means. lol Quite the contrary. I just don't think it captures what I am seeing... I especially like that fry photo. What setup do you use? I am guessing you have a pretty nice macro lens... Quote edited by Coryologist.
No offense taken, Pete. I have lots of pics I'm proud of. That's certainly not one lof them. :-) That was taken when I had my Canon 20D. The lens was a canon 105mm macro.
Was thinking maybe about the albino Sterbai as an option, I bought 6 (I wanted to see them before going all out) but none of them lasted more then 10 days. Bad shipping for sure (unexpected temp drop with poor shipper locally) but they seemed fine and just started dying one by one. No obvious signs of disease, stress or outward signs of organ failure; they just dropped dead. I didn't disect them though, kind of wish I had but time limitations.... I guess they seem overly delicate, would have to breed some wild blood back into them.
I have 6 albino C. sterbai. I love them, but they have never even thought about spawning. I am awaiting 6 more to try to stir-up the group. As far as the die-off, it could be a lot of things. In my fish room it only happens with newly acquired stock that prolly wasn't that hardy from the start. - Frank

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