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what to put in a 10gal tank?

Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 16:41
by DewDropPony
I have a 10gal with incandesent lighting. The substrate is sand. What would you suggest I stock it with?

Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 16:49
by MatsP
Let's reverse the question: What would YOU like to put in it?

Also, some further details could help:
1. Are there any other fish in the tank at present?
2. What temperature are is the tank (planned and/or current)?

Roughly, you can have fish that grows up to about 4-5 inches in a 10g tank, but smaller is probably better. There are LOTS of different possibilities here, so it's not easy to just point out one. [I did a quick list of sizes, as almost 700 species of the 1700 odd in the Cat-eLog are smaller than 110 mm (4.25 inches roughly)]. That's a lot of choice.

Of course, some of those are almost impossible to find in regular shops. Others are fairly common.

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Mats

Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 18:01
by DewDropPony
MatsP wrote:Let's reverse the question: What would YOU like to put in it?
I don't know
MatsP wrote: 1. Are there any other fish in the tank at present?
no
MatsP wrote: 2. What temperature are is the tank (planned and/or current)?
tropical
MatsP wrote: Roughly, you can have fish that grows up to about 4-5 inches in a 10g tank, but smaller is probably better. There are LOTS of different possibilities here, so it's not easy to just point out one. [I did a quick list of sizes, as almost 700 species of the 1700 odd in the Cat-eLog are smaller than 110 mm (4.25 inches roughly)]. That's a lot of choice.

Of course, some of those are almost impossible to find in regular shops. Others are fairly common.

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Mats
I see. can you list a couple that are common. no corries or plecos. I love the look of many pims and pictus but that tank is too small for them.

Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 18:25
by MatsP
You can list them yourself (well, the first 100 at least) by selecting the "Search" option in the Cat-eLog, and sorting by "Hits" should give you the most popular ones.

Unfortunately, we don't have a "not <some>" option in the selection, so you'll just have to NOT select a family or genus, and do the unselection yourself.

A more precise temperature (tropical is anything above something like 25'C) would also help deselect a huge number of fish from that list. The more precisely you specify the temperature, the fewer fish you get on the list, basicly [you can remove ALMOST all Corys by selecting a temp-range of 27-28'C or the equivalen fahrenheit]. Unfortunately, you'll still have a huge number of Plecos on the list, since those are popular and have a more variable temperature range. [You can then select the individual family that you find in that list, and get more choices by removing the temp-range again].

Perhaps some ideas:
- a very active and interesting fish - although it grows a bit on the big side. [This is in the Callichtyidae family, but not a Cory-looking fish].
may be another choice, perhaps.

Finally, you'll need to compare the list of "possible candidates" with the list of "available to your LFS's", and choose something from that union.

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Mats

Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 18:27
by apistomaster
First replace the incandescent lights with 10 watt screw in compact fluorescents. They are $5.00 at WalMart Pet Dept and get the 6700K. You will have enough cool light to grow plants and bring out the natural colors of your fish. They last a long time and won't overheat your tank.
For catfish ideas; Otocinclus, Parotocinclus or a favorite of mine L10a red lizard Rhinoloricaria for somthing small, colorful and cool.

Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 18:34
by MatsP
apistomaster wrote:First replace the incandescent lights with 10 watt screw in compact fluorescents. They are $5.00 at WalMart Pet Dept and get the 6700K. You will have enough cool light to grow plants and bring out the natural colors of your fish. They last a long time and won't overheat your tank.
Very good suggestion.
For catfish ideas; Otocinclus, Parotocinclus or a favorite of mine L10a red lizard Rhinoloricaria for somthing small, colorful and cool.
Assuming that those don't count in the exclusion of "plecos", then I agree (they are Loricariidae, which is the family of "Plecos", but of course, it depends on what you classify as a Pleco - I tend to equal Pleco with all Loricariidae family species, but that is a simplification, many will not see a "Whiptail" or "Oto" as a Pleco, but a Hypancistrus or Hypostomus is would be VERY hard to push out of the Pleco "group").

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mats

Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 18:47
by apistomaster
Yeah, after you subtract the Corys and Loricaridae that only leaves a few catfish. I suppose I could have mentioned Microglanis bumblebee cats, Rhamdia,Tatia perugiae, and a Banjo Cat would work. Might not see them very often but they would fit in a ten gallon tank.
I have found those lights to be very useful and reasonable in cost for smaller tanks.

Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 20:14
by Reginator
10 gallon (US) is about 50 litres I believe, I have a friend who recently set up a lovely well planted mini-amazon 50 litre tank, he stocked with 5 ottos, an LDA 33, 8 gold tetras and a pair of apistogramma borellis, some nice small-leaf cryptos, java moss (stuck to a coconut shell-cave) and some cabombas. Drop the LDA33 if you don't want "plecos" and you've got a purty little tank :D :wink:

Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 22:34
by rahendricks
Brachyrhamdia - Pim like but stay small.

Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 23:14
by Reginator
rahendricks wrote:Brachyrhamdia - Pim like but stay small.
I've got a meesi and imitator, neither seems to be exactly ideal for a small tank, boisterous at feeding, fast moving and have eaten small fish in my tank. Mine are both in a 290litre and at times it looks a bit small for them, they can do a length of the tank in a couple of seconds....

Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 11:41
by MatsP
Reginator wrote:10 gallon (US) is about 50 litres I believe, I have a friend who recently set up a lovely well planted mini-amazon 50 litre tank, he stocked with 5 ottos, an LDA 33, 8 gold tetras and a pair of apistogramma borellis, some nice small-leaf cryptos, java moss (stuck to a coconut shell-cave) and some cabombas. Drop the LDA33 if you don't want "pl*cos" and you've got a purty little tank :D :wink:
10 US gallon is 38 liters, 20 x 10 x 12 inches, so a bit smaller than a 50L tank in some direction(s).

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Mats

Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 12:12
by daniel60