Ancistrus sp. (3)
Posted: 03 Jan 2007, 16:19
Perhaps a stupid question, but what does the 3 stand for in Ancistrus sp. (3)? I know what sp. means, but I can't figure the 3 out... 
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Posted: 04 Jan 2007, 08:13
Ancistrus sp.(number) stands for Ancistrus sp. that dont have neither an L-number nor a scientific name.The 3 in Ancistrus sp.(3) is just the order at which it was put on the catelog and nothing else.Its just so we can tell it apart from the other Ancistrus sp. that dont have a scientific name or an L-number too.
Posted: 04 Jan 2007, 08:34
Or a river. Some fish are labelled by their capture location if this is known. For example....Ancistrus sp.(number) stands for Ancistrus sp. that dont have neither an L-number nor a scientific name.
Posted: 04 Jan 2007, 09:02
I think i forgot thatracol wrote:Or a river
Posted: 04 Jan 2007, 09:54
Thanks guys, I keep larning everyday 
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 01:00
So there are Ancistrus sp (1) and Ancistrus sp (2) also ?
Carol
Carol
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 02:09
Yes. And more.butterfly wrote:So there are Ancistrus sp (1) and Ancistrus sp (2) also ?
Carol
They are designations used (only) here at PC for species
of unknown ID.
Ancistrus spp.
From the second post in this thread.........
Kostas wrote:Ancistrus sp.(number) stands for Ancistrus sp. that dont have neither an L-number nor a scientific name.The 3 in Ancistrus sp.(3) is just the order at which it was put on the catelog and nothing else.Its just so we can tell it apart from the other Ancistrus sp. that dont have a scientific name or an L-number too.
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 02:57
Cool! Thank You.
Carol
Carol
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 08:25
If you look in the Cat-elog, you'll see that ie. sp(4) is the albino kind, sp(5) the longfin kind, which would make sp(6) the longfin-albino kind I guess...correct me if I'm wrong here.
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 10:52
No,its not exactly like that...
The albino variety of a certain sp. remains the same sp. as the normal coloured form and so it is included in with the normal coloured form.The same goes for the longfin Ancistrus too.They are just selectively bred to have long fins but they remain the same sp. as the normal form.If you check Ancistrus sp.(3) in the catelog you will see that there are also photos of its albino form and of its long fin form.Ancistrus sp.(number) are not variants of the same sp. but rather different species.We just dont know pretty much anything about their origin and they dont have a scientific name or an L-number.
The albino variety of a certain sp. remains the same sp. as the normal coloured form and so it is included in with the normal coloured form.The same goes for the longfin Ancistrus too.They are just selectively bred to have long fins but they remain the same sp. as the normal form.If you check Ancistrus sp.(3) in the catelog you will see that there are also photos of its albino form and of its long fin form.Ancistrus sp.(number) are not variants of the same sp. but rather different species.We just dont know pretty much anything about their origin and they dont have a scientific name or an L-number.
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 17:34
Exactly like Kostas says: The number doesn't have any meaning whatsoever. There used to be a long-fin and albino entry (numbers 4 and 5), but as they are actually the same as sp(3), they got merged several months ago.
It's not just Ancistrus that have sp(x), there are several other species that aren't well-known, and it's just a way to give them a name that is unique in the database. There are currently 9 different Ancistrus species that are "unknown".
Note that it's not for sure that there isn't a scientific name or L-number for a particular species. The sp(x) just means that it can't be identified to such by the data we have on the site.
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Mats
It's not just Ancistrus that have sp(x), there are several other species that aren't well-known, and it's just a way to give them a name that is unique in the database. There are currently 9 different Ancistrus species that are "unknown".
Note that it's not for sure that there isn't a scientific name or L-number for a particular species. The sp(x) just means that it can't be identified to such by the data we have on the site.
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Mats
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 17:40
Missed the merging then...so forget my stupid remarkMatsP wrote:Exactly like Kostas says: The number doesn't have any meaning whatsoever. There used to be a long-fin and albino entry (numbers 4 and 5), but as they are actually the same as sp(3), they got merged several months ago.
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 19:03
I do hope 1 thing:
Because, 'Ancistrus sp 5 (on planetcatfish.com)' ideally refers to only 1 kind of fish
that as the numbers 4 and 5 habre been use previously, that any new ancistrus sp will be named 6, and not (to fill the ranks) 5There used to be a long-fin and albino entry (numbers 4 and 5), but as they are actually the same as sp(3), they got merged several months ago.
Because, 'Ancistrus sp 5 (on planetcatfish.com)' ideally refers to only 1 kind of fish
Posted: 29 Jan 2007, 20:34
At any given point in time, yes. Over time however, they can change...Bas Pels wrote:Because, 'Ancistrus sp 5 (on planetcatfish.com)' ideally refers to only 1 kind of fish
Jools
Posted: 30 Jan 2007, 17:49
What has become commonly known as Ancistrus sp 3 in the English speaking hobby is called Ancistrus sp. "brown" in the German hobby. It could just as easily be called Ancistrus sp. "bred in large numbers by Florida and SE Asian commercial breeders whose original point of capture (and thus any chance of correctly identifying it) has been lost to the annals of the hobby's history." But that would be a mouthful.
-Shane
-Shane
Posted: 30 Jan 2007, 21:03
How about this, Ancistrus ubiquitousus? 