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i bought this little fella as an L48, but is it?







about 2 inches total, no catch location

thanks

You need a catching location to be sure what species it is, if not you have to wait until it is mature. There are several L-no that look very similar as youngster coming from different rivers in Brasil.

Janne

i know, which makes it a pain as i cant get it!! oh well

Are we sure it's a Scobinancistrus?

Jools

Not really, but the head shape is wrong to be a Hypancistrus and the mouth reminds me on a Scobiancistrus.
To be sure, can you take a pic of the teeth?

Janne

It certainly isn't an ancistrinae/i/however one spells it these days, nor is it a baryancistrus, so I don't really see what other black and white spotted loricariids it could be.

Jon wrote:It certainly isn't an ancistrinae/i/however one spells it these days, nor is it a baryancistrus, so I don't really see what other black and white spotted loricariids it could be.

Ancistrini is the name for group of plecos now belonging to the hypostominae that used to have their own sub-family ancistrinae. So it MUST be an ancistini!

Jools

*Ancistini. My mistake.

Jon wrote:*Ancistini. My mistake.

No worries at all, it's a minefield!

Jools

It does look a lot like the that I've seen.

L082 has a very thick caudal peduncle, which gives it a quite distinctive trunk like appearance.

Not sure if I can see that from the photos. It could be an age thing though.

Try and get a dead on sideways shot. That may help.

mouth and side on, got it

not as flat as the L082

I noted a spine on top of the head.
Typical to Leporacanthicus species, but the shape of the rest of the fish looks different. So I gess that there are more than Leporacanthicus that have that kind of spine of the head!?

Regards
Cristoffer

So I gess that there are more than Leporacanthicus that have that kind of spine of the head!?

Yes, you can see that even on Hypancistrus species and others...but these are much smaller then they are on Leporacanthicus species.

Janne

Yes it's a L48 Scobinancistrus!!!!!!

EXOTICFINDS.NET wrote:Yes it's a L48 Scobinancistrus!!!!!!

how sure can you be on that?

judging by the shape it's definately a Scobancistrus, it's not a sunshine or L253, so in my opinion it's a L48 they come in both light brown or dark brown.. also forgot to say very nice fish keep feeding him well and do your waterchanges and in time he or she will be as big as it's tank mate L14...

Thanks Blue

http://www.exoticfinds.net

thanking you

Hi!

And why it couldn't be a L133 or L362 or a L368??

Cheers
Yann

Good point yann but

L133 typically has smaller spot's but also i have not seen it on any exporters list

L362 i have imported 2 boxes of them this year and they seam to have small spot's on the head area.

L368 predominently are more of black body color with larger spot's they also cost a lot more... also i don't belive the DATZ pic is accurate.

so it would help if we know how much he paid for the fish...

Thanks Exoticfinds.net

£28

Hi!!


Really funny you don't find the DATZ pic accruate since they are the one behind the L numbering system and L368 was first imported by transfish and first pictured by transfish as well... which mean their picture is the ref for all the rest!!

I have seen so many wrongly id fish on export stock list...and when you know how they assign L number to the fish they send... trust me the river has really nothing to do...

they have employees checking the fish and identifing with the Aqualog book...and if you are lucky it is with the new one...so it is just a wild guess...only a few companies have their own fishermens, that collect fish for them so they can be really sure about the ID...

Cheers
Yann

that kind of annoys me! my lfs get quite a lot of L's in stock and tbh most are labelled wrong, not his fault mind. its a shame really, but then again we wouldnt be having this conversation if it all went smoothly!

IDing them is part the fun. Its great when you find out you have something unusual.

I think this mystery is part of the reason why so many people seem to be drawn to plecs.

mouth shot, not the best i know, will this help to get a POSITIVE id?

anyone?

It's roughly 14 hours since the picture was posted (3:09 pm - 1.23 am -> 13h54m in my math). Since some of the members of this forum has more things to do than just sit around looking at web-sites, they may not go here more than once a day or less... So maybe some patience, perhaps?

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Mats

maybe a little less rudeness!!! mod or not!

It's a Scobiancistrus species but I cant help you with the right L-no.

Janne