Catfish ID Please

HylaChristine · Post by **HylaChristine** » 27 Jul 2006, 20:05

I picked this guy up today. Nothing unusual about him, he is just brown. Does anyone know what he is?

zenyfish · Post by **zenyfish** » 27 Jul 2006, 21:35

Might be this:

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 27 Jul 2006, 21:36

erm

that's NOT the way to take a pic of a fish.

it's not only very hard to see what it is with all the fins and whiskers 'slimed together' like that, it's also very fish-unfriendly.

just put it in a tiny fauna-box or acrylic tank filled with water and take a pic.

my guess is some sort of Chrysichthys.

but first, make a decent fishfriendly pic.

HylaChristine · Post by **HylaChristine** » 27 Jul 2006, 22:27

zenyfish wrote:Might be this:

Mystus leucophasis

He doesnt hang upside down in the tank.

HylaChristine · Post by **HylaChristine** » 27 Jul 2006, 22:43

What about
Lophiobagrus brevispinis

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog...species_id=401

This seems to look like him?

diburning · Post by **diburning** » 27 Jul 2006, 22:47

sidguppy wrote:erm

that's NOT the way to take a pic of a fish.

it's not only very hard to see what it is with all the fins and whiskers 'slimed together' like that, it's also very fish-unfriendly.

just put it in a tiny fauna-box or acrylic tank filled with water and take a pic.

my guess is some sort of Chrysichthys.

but first, make a decent fishfriendly pic.

Invest in a specimen container

HylaChristine · Post by **HylaChristine** » 27 Jul 2006, 23:00

diburning wrote:
Invest in a specimen container

Ok will do. But I still need a positive ID so I can give my catfish the best possible conditions and feeding. Thanks Hyla

HylaChristine · Post by **HylaChristine** » 28 Jul 2006, 03:10

Here are some more pictures, they most definitly are not great, but they are the best I can do with him in a container.

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 28 Jul 2006, 08:18

he meant a small see-thru tank like in This post where the L pleco is in a small glass tank
or HERE where this Common plec cal also be viewed from the side.

such tanks (at least the 8" size or so in acrylic 'glass') are dirtcheap, shouldn't cost more than just a few bucks.

for example thingies like these are handy for determining fish.

HylaChristine · Post by **HylaChristine** » 28 Jul 2006, 15:49

Im sorry, I dont understand why you are being so rude. All I want is a positive ID so that I can make sure he is in the right enviroment. I understand what he, the poster, suggested but as I was switching out the gravel last night, I found what I could to take a picture of him in and obviously the macro camera setting did not work this time.
Hyla

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 28 Jul 2006, 16:23

Rude?? I'm not rude.

I just speak CLEARLY and use examples in pictures in case of misunderstandings, like the one happening when someone told you about a specimencontainer and you put the fish in a bucket of

perware or something.

or are you one of those that immedeately labels any comment 'rude' whenever it suits, because you don't agree with it or because you're proven wrong about something?
just curious.

you want your fish determinated or not?

pturley · Post by **pturley** » 28 Jul 2006, 16:48

Hyla,
Sid's not rude, just really to the point!

As for your fish, SidGuppy is right, a bit better shot would help. Does your camera have a macro mode? (the little flower symbol on most digi-cams.)

As for Lophiobagrus spp., it looks like the mouth is too narrow, I am inclined to agree with Chrysichthys spp. for now.

HylaChristine · Post by **HylaChristine** » 28 Jul 2006, 17:24

pturley wrote:Hyla,
Sid's not rude, just really to the point!

As for your fish, SidGuppy is right, a bit better shot would help. Does your camera have a macro mode? (the little flower symbol on most digi-cams.)

As for Lophiobagrus spp., it looks like the mouth is too narrow, I am inclined to agree with Chrysichthys spp. for now.

Hi, thanks for responding. I have a macro setting that I used for both sets of pictures but the second set still did not come out. I guess I will have to wait until he gets used to the tank and comes out before I can get a decent shot.
And I will look into getting a specimen container.
Thanks
Hyla

Post by **Shane** » 28 Jul 2006, 18:42

Hyla,
I can not make an identification either from the above photos. That said, let's all lighten up a bit. We all took 1000s of bad photos of fish before we got the hang of it. Hyla is not looking for a confrontation; she just wants a possible identification.
-Shane

HylaChristine · Post by **HylaChristine** » 28 Jul 2006, 22:59

2 New Pictures.
He has no teeth, one barbel on each side of his mouth and one barbel on each side underneath his mouth.

zenyfish · Post by **zenyfish** » 29 Jul 2006, 01:45

Looks like a forked tail from one of the shots from top? What was it sold to you as?

Looks like there's some slight banding on the fish?
You can almost see the same banding on this fish:

You need someone more expert as far as the barbels though ...

Not Lophiobagrus brevispinis I think. BTW, Sid's the expert on those, he's the first to have captive bred them.

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 29 Jul 2006, 08:19

no brevispinis.

this fish has a pointed nose, long pectorals, 2 thick barbels instead of thin ones and a forked tail wich no Lophiobagrus has.

typical Claroteid shape though.

Chrysichthys of some kind, yes.

anyway, this is likely to grow to a fairly large fish!
smaller Chrysichthys species (like C sianenna) are very characteristic, the ones shaped like this one are all in the 1 foot or much more league.

HylaChristine · Post by **HylaChristine** » 29 Jul 2006, 16:34

Oi vay, then I might take him back, I already have plenty of tank busters. Thank you Sidguppy.