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Red tail/Tiger Shovelnose cross
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 04:45
by Tihsho
Let me just say I put this thread here since this SA cross breed is more like a product of man not SA.
Just wanted to get some info on them and or some pics. Info on them are pretty hard to come by.
ATM I'm getting a little 3-4 incher to raise up then off to a larger tank it will go.
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 17:22
by pictus_man_77
if i were you, i would not get one. But, if you are getting one, then treat it as a RTC, and not a tiger shovelnose.
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 20:38
by LimaShovel
they are awesome catfish my friend had one and I wish I could get one.
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 23:47
by Tihsho
So just as hungry & just as huge. How about their growth speed? Same? Faster? Slower?
Posted: 22 Jun 2006, 10:30
by racoll
A hybrid will often grow much faster, and to a larger adult size than either of the parent species. This phenomenon is called hybrid vigour.
Expect this fish to reach over 6 feet long.
I hope you have a big enough pond.
Have you read the big cats
sticky?
Posted: 22 Jun 2006, 16:08
by The Stig
I agree with above.
Both parents are huge, around 6 feet, and crosses grow even bigger so these will be truly huge creatures. I dont think you should keep one, and i wouldn't see the point of buying them to 'grow on' because they will grow so quickly.
Carl.
Posted: 26 Jun 2006, 05:08
by necrocanis
mine is around 27" right now. I have talked with a guy from MFK that has one around 30" got mine just under 23", and now 9 months later it's 27" with no signs of slowing. Keeping him for life(either his or mine)!
Posted: 27 Jul 2006, 23:47
by diburning
I'm new here and I'm not sure if this is allowed or not, but here is a link to a thread on another forum where people have some of them.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forum ... hp?t=32122
I think that they are artificially created because they are from different genuses.
Posted: 28 Jul 2006, 08:33
by sidguppy
ugh!
to see the pics on that forum you need to be logged in
crapmastery of the highest degree I say
you can take a safe bet they're created; in the wild TSN and RTC go out of each others' way even if they share habitat wich I doubt (the TSN probably likes shallower water, but I may be wrong).
maybe with some research it is even traceable by who and when these hybrids were created the first time; it's definitely traceable where they are still created today.
Posted: 28 Jul 2006, 10:41
by pictus_man_77
I must admit, they do look quite nice, but i cant see why you would consider buying one
Posted: 28 Jul 2006, 11:24
by sidguppy
they make good eating.
it seems baby Red Tails, baby TSN and baby hybrid Pims are increasingly popular with the Chinese & Orientals over here.
got that info from a LFS owner, one of the non-BSing kind.
it makes sense; they're completely unsuitable for the home aquarium, but in Brasil people eat these too.
Those Chinese etc buyers buy them small, raise them in indoor or heated Koi-ponds or containers and then eat them as a very exclusive dinner (at least in Europe it's exclusive food).
Just like buying a pig, turkey or a rabbit and eating it whenever Xmas, Thanksgiving etc arrives.
I wouldn't say no to a big plate of grilled hybrid Pim with Chinese spices, rice and a pair of chopsticks
