L173 and L046 not the same.

Zebrapl3co · Post by **Zebrapl3co** » 26 May 2006, 16:46

Hi Can I ask why the L173 is cataloged in the same page as the L046? To me they are definately different in terms of body patterns and the tail patterns already set them appart.
Just curious ... or was the picture of the L173 inaccurate?

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 27 May 2006, 09:46

They're cataloged together as they are the same species, .

This is hugely oversimplified, but for different species, you'd need to see a fish with a wider head, bigger eyes, deeper body, that sort of thing.

Patterns of demonstrably variable fish are not enough to define species (although this is a slightly sticky one as the description does bang on about the colouration a lot) but are enough to define different l-numbers.

Jools

Cattleya · Post by **Cattleya** » 27 May 2006, 16:00

Hi
L173 is not any more Hypancistrus zebra .
now its just Hypancistrus sp. L173
http://l-welse.com/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=696

Lg Udo

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 27 May 2006, 16:05

Cattleya wrote:Hi
L173 is not any more Hypancistrus zebra .
now its just Hypancistrus sp. L173
http://l-welse.com/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=696

Lg Udo

Sorry, but it matches the description of Hypancistrus zebra and I'm unaware of any other reason to split it. Perhaps some new information has emerged from Germany?

Jools

Cattleya · Post by **Cattleya** » 27 May 2006, 18:17

Hi
Yes A.Werner and(or) Datz say
L46 and L173 => 2 diferent species.
L173 is not an L46 with wrong sign.
http://www.datz.de/MEIZ2DHAoA1Ap7Yp7F1o ... 1C25EA7258
scrol down to the end

but do not ask me wat are "L46 with wrong sign"

sory for my english
lg Udo

Zebrapl3co · Post by **Zebrapl3co** » 29 May 2006, 15:38

Sorry, I don't know any German, but I tried to have it translated into English using google. From what I am gathering, it's offsprings looks the same but differ when grown into adults? I think is all so says that it's a good 12 cm bigger than the L046.
Correct me if I am wrong...

Cattleya · Post by **Cattleya** » 29 May 2006, 16:19

Zebrapl3co wrote:Sorry, I don't know any German, but I tried to have it translated into English using google. From what I am gathering, it's offsprings looks the same but differ when grown into adults? I think is all so says that it's a good 12 cm bigger than the L046.
Correct me if I am wrong...

corect !
juvenile looks like l46
semiadult and adult looks diferent.
and the Fin becoms longer caudals.

lg Udo

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 03 Dec 2006, 11:14

It's been moved back out.

Jools