Help sex and ID

laurab5 · Post by **laurab5** » 21 Dec 2005, 13:56

Hi all. i have not posted in a while, but tonight i am getting what i am pretty sure is a trio of L066. The suspected male is 4.25 inches, and the suspected females are .5 and 4 inches. I am going to try and breed these now since they are full grown, and my L260 i am just going to grow them up more until summer and then breed them again. They are only 2.75-3.25 inches, and maybe i will get a spawn with them on accident. Is this trio i am getting of L066 full grown, and, who has bred these please give me information. I plan on putting them in a 20 long.

Edit:Ok, so, are these L333 or L066. I am going to get 1 more female when my LFS gets more in.

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 21 Dec 2005, 14:24

I assume you're talking Total Length rather than standard length - Cat-eLog gives a Standard Length of 4.8", so that would make it around 6" total length. If so, I'd guess that they may be able to grow another inch or so, but they should be able to breed at that size.

Search the forum and check Shane's world - but any advice given to you on L260 should pretty much apply to the L066 as well.

[Of course, I haven't bred either of L066 or L260, so my info is what I've gathered from reading on this forum, really.]

--
Mats

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 21 Dec 2005, 16:45

There's really no other information to be had. They breed as all hypancistrus do; in caves with good turnover. I've found, personally, that hardness is actually not much of an issue and currently have raised several generation of fry in hard So Cal water (so much so that I have to scrape the lime crust off my tanks every few weeks).

laurab5 · Post by **laurab5** » 21 Dec 2005, 23:50

so jon, you don't do rainy seasons. i am hoping that just doing regular water changes with my QA's will get a spawn, no R/O water. i heard QA's are a little more sensitive though

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 22 Dec 2005, 00:07

I don't think hardness is as decisive of a factor for spawning in most species as most put it to be.

Telnes · Post by **Telnes** » 22 Dec 2005, 00:37

I think that after your first spawn, its quite easy to get them to do it again. So now all i do, is to give them a 50% water change. But the first time was the trikky one. I did it all,rainy season,food,currency.. Then my friends told me to let them alone. So when i came home after a 3 weeks hollyday the alpha male had fry inn his cave.

I had a turnover off 4 p/h. Soft water,with a lot of O2 and a group of 3 males and 4 females and the larges plecos where about 7 cm.

Too day i have a turnover about 10 per hour,PH 6,5 - 6,8, High O2,soft water.

http://www.akvaforum.no/akvarium.cfm?id=1155

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 22 Dec 2005, 02:50

I agree. In fact, they don't usually spawn right after a water change for me. It's usually a week or two in to my once-every-three-weeks water changing regime before I see any eggs at all.

laurab5 · Post by **laurab5** » 22 Dec 2005, 02:59

So jon, all you do with your L066 is pretty much just regular tap water changes. Could you pm me and give me your tank setup and we can talk more

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 22 Dec 2005, 08:09

Done and done.

laurab5 · Post by **laurab5** » 22 Dec 2005, 12:56

Ok, here they are. Please try to sex them

Owch · Post by **Owch** » 22 Dec 2005, 15:33

They look very much like my L333's.

As for sexing;

Id say the bigger one is a male and the other two are females.

But thats just comparing them to my L333's (2 Females and 4 Males)

Tom

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 22 Dec 2005, 17:05

I'm seeing two females and one male as well, but i'ts somewhat hard to say from the pics.

laurab5 · Post by **laurab5** » 22 Dec 2005, 21:44

Well, the smallest one is occupying a cave, and the 2 bigger ones are not. they are just amongst the rocks. I was thinking the darkest one was male, but that is defintely female. Anybody else want to take a stab at the sexes and if they are L066 or L333

Fish Soup · Post by **Fish Soup** » 22 Dec 2005, 22:41

The one in the middle is male. The one at the bottom is female. The smaller one on top is probably female.

Don

Fish Soup · Post by **Fish Soup** » 22 Dec 2005, 22:50

Going by head shape in my guess above. The bottom fish's head starts to curve right at the fins. The middle fish has a flat area in front of the fins before it starts to curve. But at second glance the overall body shape of the middle fish does have fuller shape of a female. So I'm not as sure now. Time for the experts!

Don

laurab5 · Post by **laurab5** » 22 Dec 2005, 22:58

Well, as i said, the smallest one is the only one occupying a cave. Barbie, Janne can you help me sex these. Also, are these L066?

mmcm1997 · Post by **mmcm1997** » 23 Dec 2005, 03:19

I have some bristle nose plecos. I have 5 males and 4 females. (I just got 2 of the 4 today). I have a 75 gallon long tanks. I have a powerhead going, temp about 79, and Ph about 7.2. How does that sound? Also what's you all's opinion on lighting? THanks MIKE

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 03 Jan 2006, 11:31

Mike: I'm not sure how your post relates to the original subject - but let's just pretend that this is a new thread:

There's lots of info on breeding Ancistrus species on this site, a forum search will probably find more than you need to know - they are pretty easy to breed as long as the male and female(s) are the same specie you shouldn't really need to do much. A drop in temp when water-changing may help trigger them. Feeding them well is obviously important too. The male needs a "cave" to hide in with the eggs/babies. The cave can be anything that is closed at one end and have a small enough opening that the male & female(s) can just about enter. Males have been known to dig holes under flat rocks (slate or similar) if no suitable space is readily available.

Temp and pH should be fine.

Lighting is for plants and owners benefit. The fish will be perfectly happy with whatever light is available from the surrounding area [as long as the tank is located in "living space", rather than in a dark celler or some such].

--
Mats

Help sex and ID

Help sex and ID

Lost