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New (to me anyway) colourful Hypostomus?
Posted: 05 Apr 2003, 10:07
by Jools
Appears to be a colourful spsecies, I'm not familiar with it.
http://www.sivanet.idv.tw/stone/html/new.htm
http://hfs.uhome.net/cgi-bin/forum/topi ... =12&show=0
Anyone have more details or have seen these for sale and have pics?
Jools
Posted: 05 Apr 2003, 11:31
by clothahump
If you do not get any response here Jools, contact LZ they are his pics.
You could always get Dinyar or Rusty to join and get more info that way.
The pics in the forums are hosted on my server.
http://eheim-uk.com/planetcatfish/galle ... ry/album68
Posted: 05 Apr 2003, 14:16
by TKP
This is a new pleco in Taiwan, I never saw it before.
two 30cm long TWD$60000(us$1700)each,three 20cm long TWD$30000(us$850)each.
Posted: 05 Apr 2003, 15:32
by Jools
TKP wrote:This is a new pl*co in Taiwan, I never saw it before.
two 30cm long TWD$60000(us$1700)each,three 20cm long TWD$30000(us$850)each.
Well, I think we should keep our eyes open for it. Any donations of pictures for the cat-elog would be gratefully recieved...
Any idea on where it comes from (I'm looking at least for a river system)?
Cheers,
Jools
Posted: 05 Apr 2003, 19:07
by Achim
Hi,
i think this is Hypostomus luteus (like said in one of the links), a species from the Rio Uruguay in southern Brasil. There is a detailed article about the Hypostomus species of this system by Roberto Reis in the first DATZ Sonderheft Harnischwelse from 1992. H. luteus was described by Godoy in 1980. Reis describes in his article the change of colouration one can nicely see in the pictures of the link. Small H. luteus with total length less than 80mm are totally dark with white dots. The bigger they become, first the unpaired fins start getting yellow, then the body from posterior to anterior. Large fish are either yellow except for the head or even totally yellow.
Literature:
Reis, R. 1992
Die Hypostomus-Arten Südbrasiliens
DATZ Sonderheft Harnischwelse: 45-48
Godoy, M. P. 1980.
Poluição -- peixes e pesca. Reconhecimento preliminar com descrição de duas espécie novas de peixes. Relatório Técnico Eletrosul. 1-45
There are some very beautiful Hypostomus species in southern Brasil (H. roseopunctatus, regani, margaritifer, luteus, ternetzi...), unfortunatly they are not very suitable for aquarium care because of their size and the lower temparatures they need.
Greetings... Achim
Posted: 05 Apr 2003, 23:03
by Dinyar
Thr Chinese caption on the Basil Aquarium pix just gives the Chinese common name of the fish, "Nihong damo II xing", which translates as "Neon Indian monk type II".
At these prices, I could buy a whole Indian temple.
Dinyar
Posted: 05 Apr 2003, 23:11
by Graeme
Those prices are outrageus. Wish i had a back garden leading into a river in S America.
Nice members on that forum.
Graeme.
Posted: 06 Apr 2003, 10:27
by plecoman
Oh, It doesn't really mean neon Indian Monk.... The first 2 chracters kind of means neon, but it is neon red, or bright red. The last two is a common name for pleco.
I am a member of the forum with the yellow coloration pleco... and TKP is the forum master there, it is a great forum.
Posted: 06 Apr 2003, 11:48
by clothahump
Jools wrote:TKP wrote:This is a new pl*co in Taiwan, I never saw it before.
two 30cm long TWD$60000(us$1700)each,three 20cm long TWD$30000(us$850)each.
Well, I think we should keep our eyes open for it. Any donations of pictures for the cat-elog would be gratefully recieved...
Any idea on where it comes from (I'm looking at least for a river system)?
Cheers,
Jools
The pics in the forums are hosted on my server.
http://eheim-uk.com/planetcatfish/galle ... ry/album68
Posted: 06 Apr 2003, 16:42
by Dinyar
plecoman wrote:Oh, It doesn't really mean neon Indian Monk.... The first 2 chracters kind of means neon, but it is neon red, or bright red. The last two is a common name for pl*co.
Plecoman,
"Nihong" is a transliteration of "neon". Though "hong", "red" is the second character, it is used for the sound, not the meaning. "Damo" has been used for two thousand years to mean "Buddhist sage from India". Sure, it also is used nowadays to mean "pleco".
Dinyar
Posted: 06 Apr 2003, 16:57
by clothahump
佛教賢哲從印度 ?
Posted: 08 Apr 2003, 12:51
by Yann
Hi Guys!
Would it be possible to have a belly shot of the fish or does anyone knows where I could find such picture...
Cheers
Yann
Re: New (to me anyway) colourful Hypostomus?
Posted: 08 Apr 2003, 17:06
by L.Z
According to the importer's from Taiwan, I believed this fish is output comes from Brazil, its name is "Hypostomus sp".Based on the importer's picture, this fish have three different size .
http://www.sivanet.idv.tw/stone/html/new.htm
The name of the smallest size is "H.Luteus I ", its body, pectoral fins, pelvic fins and the dorsal fin is the black performance,it has the bright yellow besides caudal fin and the dorsal fin part, other approximately are the black, also on the body has many spot existence.
The name of the medium size is "H.Luteus II ", its bodily near caudal fin gradually transforms the bright yellow from the black colour, The black colour of each fin also vanished and change to yellow, the spot on his body also disappear.
The name of the large size is "H.Luteus III "(the followed photo), was obvious can see vrey little black colour on his body and head, other have all become
the bright yellow, extremely beautiful and attractive.
When I saw this at the first time , his bright color make me too surprised, he very quick adapts Taiwan's water quality ,very health and and start to ate food at the second day.
Maybe this fish is the highest sale price in Taiwan , but it is already sold and wait for his new master.
http://www.corydorasworld.com/gallery3/album68
Hypostomus sp(33CM)?IN my Planet Catfish Gallery .
Posted: 08 Apr 2003, 19:10
by coelacanth
Achim wrote:i think this is Hypostomus luteus (like said in one of the links), a species from the Rio Uruguay in southern Brasil.
There have been some fish from the Rio Uruguay imported into the UK recently, including some nice Crenicichla
I know that we were talking premium prices for these.
Anyone in the UK got a H. luteus, or know of someone with one?
Posted: 08 Apr 2003, 19:17
by Yann
Hi!
Can you described how the belly looks like?
Does he has little armor plate on his belly( totally, partially, range, size???)
In advance
Thanks!
Cheers
Yann
Re: New (to me anyway) colourful Hypostomus?
Posted: 09 Apr 2003, 15:37
by L.Z
Posted: 23 Apr 2003, 00:43
by TKP
Posted: 02 May 2003, 07:15
by L.Z
Thank TKP.
Posted: 25 May 2003, 06:27
by L.Z
The next week I can photograph this Hypostomus sp the picture.
http://www.rva.ne.jp/gallary3/pleco/hypostomus_sp.htm Japan web
Hypostomus sp
I obtain the information is Taiwan inputs five, Japan inputs about ten.
He and before I photograph Hypostomus sp is same, but smaller size, may let these pictures lay aside together on Cat-eLog?
Posted: 26 May 2003, 09:00
by Jools
I really will try and get these pictures online in the next few days, if I forget please PM me to remind me.
Jools
Posted: 26 May 2003, 14:36
by L.Z
I will be able to obtain this fish's picture in tomorrow.
Posted: 28 May 2003, 15:33
by L.Z
Posted: 28 May 2003, 19:23
by Jools
Do you think they are all the same species? Looks like it to me.
Jools
Posted: 29 May 2003, 13:24
by L.Z
I thought is same.
Hypostomus luteus
Posted: 31 May 2003, 10:43
by coneshell
Hi all,
We recently imported a H.luteus from Brazil it's body colour was darker than the fish pictured, more like a margiretifer but with these stunning orange fins. The fish photographed may be just stressed and will probably darken up. Sorry no pics, it "dissapeared" before I got chance to photograph it.
Re: Hypostomus luteus
Posted: 31 May 2003, 11:28
by Jools
coneshell wrote:Hi all,
We recently imported a H.luteus from Brazil it's body colour was darker than the fish pictured, more like a margiretifer but with these stunning orange fins. The fish photographed may be just stressed and will probably darken up. Sorry no pics, it "dissapeared" before I got chance to photograph it.
Andy,
What would be the likely retail price?
Jools