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Skeletalizing dead fish

Posted: 28 Oct 2005, 15:45
by Dinyar
I'm looking for an effective and wife-friendly way of skeletalizing a 6" dead fish.

Small fish I've just left under an inverted coconut shell on the window sill, and that worked OK, but a 6" fish would smell too much. Moreover, the weather is getting colder, which increases the likelihood of mummification rather than skeletalization.

Any suggestions?

Posted: 28 Oct 2005, 16:11
by Silurus
This depends on whether you want the skeleton to be articulated, or if you want a pile of fish bones.

If the latter, the easiest way would be to put it in a jar of water (it's going to smell some, though). If the former, the best bet is to consider a dermestid colony.

Posted: 28 Oct 2005, 16:31
by Grimace
You could always google it. I'm sure they have plenty of ideas!

Posted: 28 Oct 2005, 23:11
by medaka
I sometimes use microworms to take the soft tissue off the skelton, however I must add that most times if you are not careful you are left with only the front end of the fish, but the bonus is there is not much of a pong sick1

Posted: 29 Oct 2005, 00:39
by Dinyar
Thanks for the advice. A dermestid colony sounds interesting, but must remain a project for a future date.

When I reduced small fish (eg, Hara) in the past, the skeletons remained intact. Would say a Synodontis inevitably disintegrate into a heap of bones?

Posted: 29 Oct 2005, 00:43
by Silurus
If you don't want the skeleton to disintegrate, you have to monitor the progress closely. The trick is to remove the skeleton before the connective tissues decay as well.

Posted: 29 Oct 2005, 11:28
by sidguppy
what are dermestids?

ants? beetles? non-insects?

Posted: 29 Oct 2005, 12:17
by snowball
They are beetles, I found this info about their use for cleaning bones:
Dermestid beetles are use by many natural history museums, anthropology departments and businesses to clean muscle and connective tissues from animal skeletons. Common names of some of the species include larder beetles, hide beetles, carpet beetles and fur beetles.


http://www.drwhitey.com/Skulls/dermestid.htm

Posted: 04 Nov 2005, 19:29
by Dinyar
My project is proceeding well. The flesh has disappeared and the skeleton retains integrity, but the skin still clings to the bones. Perhaps it will decompose away in a few more days if I keep it moist.

For next time, I was thinking of commercial meat tenderizer. Do the experts think it would expedite the stripping of the flesh and skin from the skeleton?

Posted: 04 Nov 2005, 19:43
by Silurus
Meat tenderizer (which contains proteolytic enzymes) will hasten the disintegration of the ligaments if you are not too careful. I have found that heavily keratinized skin (e.g. such as that found in sisoroid catfishes) do not digest well in enzymes. It may be necessary to skin the fish before digestion in such cases.