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Circular Luricaria???

Posted: 23 Oct 2005, 20:46
by Jim Richardson
Hi All,

OK, has any one heard of a â??Circular Luricariaâ?

Posted: 23 Oct 2005, 20:55
by Silurus
That name is sometimes used for Pseudohemiodon.

Posted: 23 Oct 2005, 21:11
by Jim Richardson
Thanks Silurus, that got me on the right track; believe he is â??Pseudohemiodon laticepsâ?

Posted: 23 Oct 2005, 23:56
by Jim Richardson
Here is a picture, looks like â??Pseudoemiodon laticepsâ?

Posted: 24 Oct 2005, 00:29
by Silurus
Do you have a picture of the whole fish? It looks more like from here.

Posted: 24 Oct 2005, 00:40
by Jim Richardson
OK, he does look a lot like the one in the first picture. He has a predominately a gray body like that one. I will try for better pictures. Thanksâ?¦

Posted: 24 Oct 2005, 01:01
by sidguppy
I can see that you keep it on gravel......

these fish should be kept on a fine sandy substrate, as they will dig themselves in the surface with just the eyes and dorsal sticking out.

they also chew the sand, continuously. sieving it, stirring it. and they 'scratch' themselves in the sand; their whole coloration is the typical "pepper & salt" coloration of a fish living in and on the sand.

not only does it look better, a sand bottom will reduce stress and significantly adds to the time it will last in captivity.

They can and do scar and damage themselves very easily on gravel, and when there are sharper particles in the gravel or when the fish is 'spooked' and tries desperately to 'dive' in the substrate, it can get very seriously wounded.
once wounded these fish do not heal fast or easy; often they succumb.

Posted: 24 Oct 2005, 01:24
by Jim Richardson
Hi Sidguppy,

On the other half of the tank he is in I have a sand pit with black Onyx which is a very fine substrate. He has taken a look at it and sat on top of the Onyx but so far has not tried to dig; may be to dark for his liking. I will most likely move him in the near future; not to keen on diggers in my planted tanks. What type of sand is good to use in aquariums? I have used very well washed play sand in the past but it was very prone to compaction and eventually fouling the water.

Thanksâ?¦

Posted: 24 Oct 2005, 09:43
by racoll
Play sand is fine, but the reason you were having compaction problems is that you were probably using too much sand.

Use no more than 1cm, and the fish will disturb it for you.

Posted: 24 Oct 2005, 10:44
by sidguppy
IMe playsand gets cloggy too, and I tend to combine diggers and plants, then 1cm is too little.

I always use 'riversand'; that's the sand wich is mixed with cement to create concrete.

it's usually mixed with fine and a bit of mediumgravel; wich I sieve out of it.

If you have the right kind of sand, it's created by water-erosion and dug out of old deposits near rivers in sandpits.
it's dirtcheap, but also dirty :D a fair bit of washing is in order, because it usually contains clay.
harmless but clouds the water.

another asset of riversand is that it's not 1 color like playsand; it's a bit more 'salt & pepper', wich gives a natural look to the tank.

it's slightly coarser than playsand and I use 3-4 cm layers with no clogging problems whatsoever.

I had Rhineloricaria latirostris sinking in such sand, right to the bottom of the tank in seconds :shock:

ofcourse if you do NOT use live plants, or attach the plants to pieces of wood (Javafern, Anubias) or float (Pistia, Oakleaf Fern, Duckweed), 1 cm is perfect; you can still see your fish.

the result in your tank will look like this!
Image
8) :wink:

Posted: 24 Oct 2005, 11:01
by MatsP
In the UK, "sharp sand" is used for mixing with cement to make concrete, and it's definitely what it says on the label: sharp. Not only does it contain big chunks of crushed stone, but the remaining fine sand is also quite sharp... I would think this varies greatly across different countries...

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Mats

Posted: 24 Oct 2005, 14:06
by characinkid
Hi

A little advise on these guys. I have been keeping a group of 4 of them for about 1 year at the moment, be sure that you feed plenty of meaty foods, these fish eat very little veggies. Mine love bloodworms, blackworms, small sinking pellets...

If you want any more info let me know, they are great fish...