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Info on Pleco from Brazil

Posted: 18 Oct 2005, 23:51
by riverwonders
Hello,

Looking for any information on this particular pleco from brazil.

Thanks for the info.


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Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 09:05
by kamphol
Looks like an albino L047.

Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 11:26
by Yann
Hi!

Yeap looks like one!!
Albinos L47.. quite unusual to see such fish with such color!!
cheers
Yann

Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 15:31
by riverwonders
yannfulliquet wrote:Hi!

Yeap looks like one!!
Albinos L47.. quite unusual to see such fish with such color!!
cheers
Yann
Thank you for the information.
I thought that albino have to have red eyes. These ones have black eyes. I cought 10 of them in Xingu River 1 month ago.
Thanks again for the information.

Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 15:41
by Caol_ila
The eye looks somewhat red on your pic.

If it comes from Xingu L47 is very likely and if not albino its a xanthorist.

Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 15:51
by riverwonders
the eye are very black
and I dont think is a xanthrist y have other pictures bot I dont know how to posted here
regards
RW

Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 16:05
by Caol_ila
What exactly makes you say its not a xanthic fish?
xanthochroism, n. condition in which all skin pigments except yellow and orange disappear.

Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 16:06
by Yann
Hi!

Is the body really this yellow or it is more a olive green??

cheers
Yann

Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 16:14
by riverwonders
Hi
the color is complitly yelow
an I know that is not a xanto because I have them and the head are Biger an they have barbs in the pectoral fins
i can send to you the other pictures
sorry for my english
regards

Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 16:19
by Yann
Xantochromic is a way to call a coloration that is in a certain way similar to albinisme but instead of having a red eye, the fish (whatever species or genus) has normal eye coloration...

Still makes your fish a
Cheers
Yann

Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 16:27
by kgroenhoej
Riverwonders - you mistake the word xanthorist with the nickname (in some countries) for Parancistrus aurantiacus: Xanto.

Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 16:43
by riverwonders
Ok THank you for the information
Regards

Posted: 20 Oct 2005, 05:15
by FuglyDragon
Just curious.

'I cought 10 of them in Xingu River'

Would you get 10 fish with this yellowing condition / coloration ? or is it not as rare as a wild albino ?

The color and the eye remind me very much of L144, but the location is obviously wrong.

Posted: 20 Oct 2005, 05:57
by riverwonders
Hi,
I agree with Yannfulliquet that these plecos are L047
and for some reason are yellow,
and yes, I was in the Xingu river one and a half month ago caching some zebra plecos and we cought these ones.
Regards

Posted: 20 Oct 2005, 10:32
by Yann
Hi!

Riverwonders: did you catch any zebra...
Under Brasilian rules, catching Hypancistrus zebra is stricly forbidden, the only authorised way is for scientidic purpose and upon approval of the IBAMA, which will also send personal to collect along the scientific (basically to control they catch what they said, the correct number they were allowed...)

@ Fuglydragon:
I highly doubt someone could find 10 of these in a short period of time, it is a color mutation, and it is very rare, with such color, he will much likely ended up eaten in the wild...lucky catch I would say!!

Cheers
Yann

Posted: 20 Oct 2005, 10:52
by MatsP
yannfulliquet wrote: @ Fuglydragon:
I highly doubt someone could find 10 of these in a short period of time, it is a color mutation, and it is very rare, with such color, he will much likely ended up eaten in the wild...lucky catch I would say!!

Cheers
Yann
I agree with that. However, if the genetics are there, there would probably be a whole brood of them. I don't know how many are in a Baryancistrus brood, but I expect there to be more than the 50-80 that you get in a Ancistrus sp(3) bunch. So if you happen to find them before they've been eaten, you could catch several of them.

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Mats

Posted: 20 Oct 2005, 15:07
by riverwonders
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Hi
yes we have 15 zebras in Los Angeles
Regards