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Callichthys callichthys

Posted: 03 Oct 2005, 20:01
by TalenT
Finally got hold of this species!

Every time we have ordered them they have turned out to be misnamed Hoplosternum sp. (most often H.littorale) but this time we got the REAL Callichthys! Very different looking catfish (compared to Hoplosternum). And very fun to watch at feeding time. The water in their tank is rather cloudy now, due to the constant sifting through the sand. It's the second time I see this species "live", first time was in the mid-80's.

Well, just wanted to tell someone. :lol:

Posted: 03 Oct 2005, 20:20
by Jools
That's great. They are mental fish, I really like them.

Are some pictures coming once you fix your cloudy water?

Jools

Posted: 03 Oct 2005, 20:30
by TalenT
I'll try to get some pics, but it all depends on if my boss remembers to bring the digi-cam to work.

We only ordered a pair, as we were afraid of getting even more Hoplosternums. There's some difference in the coloration between the two Callichthys we got, is there some way to sex them? I think I've read somewhere that the males get thicker pectoral spines during mating season (as with Hoplosternum). Correct?

Posted: 04 Oct 2005, 00:36
by djw66
Talen T รข?? Congrats! Haven't seen a 'CC' for sale anywhere in the US for many years (since the late 70's, if memory serves). Used to be a popular fish, according to old US aquarium literature.

Dave

Posted: 04 Oct 2005, 20:22
by bronzefry
Awesome, TalenT! I have Dr. Warren E. Burgess' book called "A Complete Introduction to Corydoras And Related Catfish." (my copy is falling apart.)It's got some info on CC's and their bubblenest building ways. On page 28 is the following:
"The females are larger and more robust, while the males are brighter in color, exhibiting a delicate blue or violet sheen laterally; the female is a rather dull olive-green."
I also look forward to the photos. :D

Posted: 05 Oct 2005, 10:59
by Redcatman
Callichthys are great fish. Well worth having if you come across them. I can confirm that the males develop the thickened first ray on the pectoral fins as they mature, so sexing at this stage is very easy.

Posted: 05 Oct 2005, 17:48
by Daniel Machado
Congratulations, TalenT.

That's a AWESOME species. I think we are lucky enough to get these at a very low price here in Brazil. They're not considered "top" fish. BTW, here's a pic of mine, which I believe to be female:

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Greetings.

Daniel.

Posted: 05 Oct 2005, 20:53
by TalenT
Daniel - I don't want to be a "knowitall", but, I think that the fish on that picture is a Hoplosternum sp. (probably H.littorale) At least by looking on the higher, and shorter body shape. And the shape of that tailfin doesn't quite look like the tailfin of Callichthys (correct me if i'm wrong).

Regarding the difference in coloration of the pair we have at the shop - one is smaller and have more dark spots on the sides. Both have a slight blue-green shine on the pectoral fins (if I remember correctly).

Posted: 05 Oct 2005, 21:02
by kev
your right Talen, you have Hoplosternum there Daniel, the best way to tell the 2 species apart is by the eye's, Hoplo's have much bigger eye's than Callichthys. My mate got me some in a few month's ago. They where mixed in with a load hoplo's and all only about 1.5" :shock: it took me about an hour to sort them out.

Kev

Posted: 06 Oct 2005, 19:49
by Daniel Machado
Sorry guys... :oops:

This fish was identified as a Callichthys by some friends, and I thought they were right. Glad to know for sure it's not. BTW, it's much clearer now, with lots of black dots over the body and a blue sheen on the pectoral AND pelvic fins. Anyway, it's amazing, and comes to the top of the tank to eat floating pellets.
Oh, almost forgot... Costed less than US$ 0.50, VERY cheap. :wink:

Greetings.

Daniel.

Here is a nice little specimen from my LFS

Posted: 17 Oct 2005, 15:15
by Dougal McGuire
Once it kept still for long enough to take it, I think you can get a pretty good idea of what Kev is saying about the eyes from this picture. They are small

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Look into the eyes, the eyes, look into the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around the eyes, look in the eyes.
You're under.

There. OK. You want to buy Callicthys Callicthys. Today. Got it?
Good.
Now, 3, 2, 1, back in the room, wide awake, off you go to your LFS

Posted: 18 Oct 2005, 20:26
by TalenT
oh I see, that's what they call a Callichthys mckennai

:lol:

Posted: 20 Oct 2005, 17:12
by kev
Hi Talen,
just wondering where you pulled that name from (MCKENNAI) did a general search and nothing come's up???? and it's not April 1st today? give us a clue.

Kev.

Posted: 20 Oct 2005, 21:16
by TalenT
Look into the eyes, the eyes, look into the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around the eyes, look in the eyes.
You're under.
There. OK. You want to buy Callicthys Callicthys. Today. Got it?
Good.
Now, 3, 2, 1, back in the room, wide awake, off you go to your LFS
http://www.paulmckenna.com/

:lol:

Posted: 21 Oct 2005, 12:14
by kev
Very good, i thought you might be on about him but i did'nt think he was big in Sweeden???. Have you every seen one of his show's from a few year's ago? they are very funny.

Kev

Posted: 22 Oct 2005, 21:49
by Ryan S
I've just seen my first Callichthys callichthys in my LFS, and I must say they were much more active than I ever imagined :!: They may have just been fed - but they were zooming around the tanks (reminded me of the fish equivalent of a shrew - couldn't stop looking for food if it wanted to!)


I wasn't particularly interested in this fish before - but now I've seen it....Will this species mix happily with Hoplo's and Dianema?

I know thy're all 'peaceful' species, but would like to make sure before I take the plunge.

Cheers,

Ryan

Posted: 22 Oct 2005, 22:46
by Marc van Arc
No problem. The only time male Hoplos and Callichthys get nasty is when they defend their (bubble-)nests.

Posted: 25 Oct 2005, 23:21
by Ryan S
Great stuff...

The guy reckons he can get some more delivered in about 3 weeks or so - better get myself into gear then... :lol:

Cheers,

Ryan