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My new bn plec...what type is it? *photo*

Posted: 26 Sep 2005, 10:55
by SnailTrail
Hi all,

I'm new to this site and was wondering if anyone knows what type of bn this is?

Image

Thanks in advance.
:D

Posted: 26 Sep 2005, 10:59
by Silurus

Posted: 26 Sep 2005, 11:02
by MatsP
I think it looks very much like the currently unidentified .

Nice looking fish.

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Mats

Posted: 26 Sep 2005, 13:47
by Jools
Does the fish has white tips to any of its fins (especially the unpaired fins)? I can't make it out from the picture becuase the gravel is white.

Posted: 26 Sep 2005, 13:49
by Yann
Hard to see, but it looks like the tail fin has some white on the upper edge..

Cheers
Yann

Posted: 26 Sep 2005, 23:11
by kkorotev
L182 (punctatus/hoplogenys)is supposed to be the only Ancistrus with that telltale smudgemark at the base of the webbing between the 1st and 2nd dorsal fin rays.

2 cents...spent.
Kevin Korotev
Milwaukee

Posted: 26 Sep 2005, 23:21
by Shane
L182 (punctatus/hoplogenys)is supposed to be the only Ancistrus with that telltale smudgemark at the base of the webbing between the 1st and 2nd dorsal fin rays.
That we could be so lucky. This mark is present on most described spp. of Ancistrus as well as many Chaetostoma spp.
-Shane

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Posted: 26 Sep 2005, 23:25
by kkorotev
O-Oh...
That's what I get for believing the Aqualog...a mistake I will not make again.
Sorry everybody.
Thanks, Shane.

Posted: 27 Sep 2005, 00:29
by SnailTrail
Thanks for the replies and links.

The tip of the upper part of the tail has a bit of white on it and some of her bristles are white too.
She looks similar to photo 2 in the L182 link and also the first pic in the #6 link.

The substrate looks very bright because I used the flash to take the photo.

Posted: 27 Sep 2005, 10:11
by kgroenhoej
L182 does not have any white anywhere.

Posted: 27 Sep 2005, 12:07
by SnailTrail
They do in the photos in the link.

Posted: 27 Sep 2005, 12:59
by MatsP
I think kgroenhoej is referring to tips of fins, not white spots for instance. I can only see one picture of the L182 that has any resemblance of white on the tips of fins, and that is the one with the fish out of water [#7].

As far as I understand, the lack of white fin-tips is a SIGNIFICANT identification point when identifying L182. For instance, is a similar specie, which HAS a wide band of white on the fin-tips.

By the way, calling this fish "she" is probably not correct, unless it's quite old. Bristles on the face of the fish is generally indicating a male. These grow bigger by age, and after several years it will have a very full growth of bristles, but a young fish will have very small and insignificant bristles. Females generally have no bristles, and any small bristles on a female will develop after many years. So unless this fish is both quite large and quite old, I'd say it's a male. It's hard, however, to tell the size from the photo supplied, as there is nothing in the picture to compare with.

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Mats

Posted: 27 Sep 2005, 20:01
by Janne
It's a female Mats :wink: This is a mature female and if you compare the shape of the head that are smoth and dont have a ridge on the head from eyes to mouth...that is a female, males have these ridge from a very young age and when they start to be mature...bristles will grows there also.

Like Shane said...Ancistrus and also Chaetostoma species is very hard to distinguish and there are many many species both described and not described of them...maybe hundreds, when it comes to Ancistrus it's very common they are exported mixed from all countrys in south america that export fishes...so they are most of the time very hard to know what species it is.

Janne

Posted: 27 Sep 2005, 21:03
by SnailTrail
Thanks Janne....I might not be an expert but I know for sure she is a female. She's around 3 1/2 inches long.

I'm not too bothered what species she is....I just thought it would be nice to find out.

Thanks for the help.

Janet

Posted: 29 Sep 2005, 03:39
by INXS
I used to have some L-59s that looked just like that - though, as Janne mentioned - there are many species and often confusion about what they are. - Who knows if mine really was an L-59.