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Australian Loricariid...

Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 10:38
by Fish Demon
This pleco was caught from a river in Queensland, Australia, and apparently they are very numerous in that location.

This specimen was frozen before being photographed. Any ideas on what it could be?

http://community.webshots.com/photo/388 ... 7673RGFukB

http://community.webshots.com/photo/388 ... 7748BSAiYB

http://community.webshots.com/photo/388 ... 7834anpANX

The Fisheries Department has been contacted (by the person who found the pleco) about the presence of these fish.

Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 10:47
by MDOU
the fisheries dept wont give a sh#t

We have more introduced species of fish in Queensland than natives

which river was it caught in?

tell me and i c an tell you what species it is

Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 10:51
by MDOU
most probably ancistris sp.3

Posted: 13 Jul 2005, 15:29
by Mike_Noren
I honestly can't see anything on those images. Would it be possible to get more photos?

Posted: 14 Jul 2005, 22:31
by Fish Demon
which river was it caught in?
No idea.

I honestly can't see anything on those images. Would it be possible to get more photos?
Are they not working, or is it because the fish is frozen?

Unidentified

Posted: 15 Jul 2005, 04:57
by Osmium
:) Interesting 'shots', Natalie. Do you still have the specimens? If enough genuine interest and 'proof' is provided, this could turn out to be a most valuable find.

Having said that; it would not be the first time that 'introduced' species have been given 'satellite' homes :? It make you think though....




Nick

Posted: 15 Jul 2005, 09:46
by MatsP
Fish Demon wrote:
which river was it caught in?
No idea.

I honestly can't see anything on those images. Would it be possible to get more photos?
Are they not working, or is it because the fish is frozen?
The pictures are working fine, and I think the fish being frozen isn't a particularly big problem. The fact that the fish occupies about 25% of a fairly small picture is the problem. A better close-up either by moving the camera closer to the fish (if the camera can cope with that), or by cutting out a similar size picture out of something that has bigger resolution (take picture at full camera res. and crop out the 25% in the middle to make is small enough to post).

Better lighting would also help. Obviously, it would also be useful if we saw the fish live, in water, but it's a bit late for that now... ;-)

Unfortunately, there are hundreds of loricaridae that are brown with lighter spots, so a good photo is a must to even get some idea. Most of them are capable of surviving in a great variety of environments, as long as the temperature is reasonably close to 25'C. Ancistrus sp(3) can easily survive in cooler water than that (18'C or so), and probably fine up to about 30'C if the water is oxygenated enough. But there's plenty of other species that it may be too.

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Mats

Posted: 15 Jul 2005, 16:23
by smithrc
i'm going for a female bristlenose ;)

Posted: 16 Jul 2005, 07:21
by Fish Demon
Unfortunately I cannot provide any more information about the fish than what has already been given.

The fish is not mine, and I do not know the person who found it. I am simply asking here because an Australian member of another forum to which I am a member made a thread about it, but we could not come to a concrete answer.

Bu judging that the two most popular and most available plecos by far in Australia are the common pleco and the common bristlenose, I think that there is a pretty good chance that it is one of those.

I personally was leaning towards a common bristlenose, but something about the head seemed very off; I'm not sure it it's because of the picture, how the fish was treated, or just the fish itself.

Whatever it is, they are breeding like rabbits in the river where they were caught.

Posted: 17 Jul 2005, 03:08
by MDOU
I herd somting interesting yesterday.....

ancistrus sp. are found in Ross river (Townsville), the Burdekin river system (north Queensland)and in a couple of little creeks around populated areas. :?

Posted: 27 Jul 2005, 09:31
by simon
MDOU wrote:I herd somting interesting yesterday.....

ancistrus sp. are found in Ross river (Townsville), the Burdekin river system (north Queensland)and in a couple of little creeks around populated areas. :?
Im going with female bristle aswell. They Have made it to the top end hey....that cant be good for our natural environment. its sad wen that happens. The fisheries are trying to crack down on these species wher i live, and thats sad for the industry, cos we get to miss out on some of the most beautiful cats because of other peoples stupidity...it makes me very upset