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Loricariichthys ?

Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 08:45
by Oscar
I can't find a positive Id for this fish, but the body shape remind me much a Loricariichthys sp. or other genera very similar. Sorry for the pics, are a bit poor, I take at LFS, but they can't tell me nothing (at the moment) of this fish came from.

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Thanks in advance.

Regards.

Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 10:06
by Silurus

Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 11:53
by Oscar
Thanks Silurus. :wink:

Checking the cat-elog don't remember see this sp. :oops: , but I think is correct as Pterosturisoma microps.

Regards.

Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 12:09
by sidguppy
If those are poor quality pics, I've got to cringe at "good quality".....

guess I can toss my camera in the trashcan :oops:

supern, especially when taking those in a LFS, often tanks are much less neat than what I see now.

nice fish; looks small.
tiny one? captive bred, perhaps?

From what I know, that species is one of the larger ones

Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 12:47
by Oscar
this pics will be enough better, I'm not a professional photographer only a simple novice.

The fish weighs is around 12-14 cm, and surely isn't bred in captivity.

Regards.

Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 21:45
by Jools
Yeah, this is P. microps I think. I saw these looking just like the pictures in an exporter in Iquitos. I remeber specifically the patterning on the front upper external rim of the suckermouth.

As sidguppy says, these are good pics, I'd certainly like to add them to the site if you are willing to email them to me?

Jools

Posted: 10 Jun 2005, 00:16
by Oscar
Thanks for the remarks. :wink:
I'd certainly like to add them to the site if you are willing to email them to me?
Without trouble, send these in a mail.

I've been reading above P. microps and remind something about the genital papilla to sexing( join to growth odontal at the sides of face ). Somenthing similar a belly scute near the papilla with star shape shows a female, is correct?

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Think the fish of the pics is female.

Regards

Posted: 10 Jun 2005, 15:25
by pturley
That is indeed a female!

Jools,
I'll send the article I wrote when I first made this observation. Perhaps it can go up in the Shane's world section?

Posted: 10 Jun 2005, 16:00
by racoll
This is my male for direct comparison...

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so, the pregenital scute is a straight pentagon in the male and a five-point star in the female. correct?

Posted: 10 Jun 2005, 16:48
by pturley
Absolutely.

In the males, the top two planes of the pentagon are somewhat concave though.

These photos have got to make it to the CatE-Log :!: In illustrating this in the past, I only have slides of dead fish.

Posted: 11 Jun 2005, 09:18
by Jools
pturley wrote:These photos have got to make it to the CatE-Log :!: In illustrating this in the past, I only have slides of dead fish.
Get 'em in that wonderful online queue that is my inbox!

Jools

Posted: 12 Jun 2005, 11:15
by Jools
The male image has been added today, still waiting on the other material... ;-)

Jools