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Pangasianodon gigas

Posted: 26 May 2005, 12:56
by Piranha
:D I decide to buy Pangasianodon gigas this month! Any advise about this species? If not suitable! Which samiliar catfish suitable for home aquarium! Thaanks!

Posted: 26 May 2005, 13:02
by MatsP
I don't know what is suitable, but P. Gigas will grow to about three meters, so unless you've got a (large) swimming-pool to keep your fish in, you'd better look for something else...

See .

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Mats

Posted: 26 May 2005, 13:02
by Dave Rinaldo
Have you read and seen the info for in the Cat-eLog?

Posted: 26 May 2005, 13:14
by Silurus
This species is CITES I. Where are you going to legally obtain one?

Posted: 26 May 2005, 13:23
by Piranha
:lol: Sorry! Wrong Paste! This one is correct Pangasius larnaudii!
:D Is it rare??

Posted: 26 May 2005, 13:29
by MatsP
Have you checked the Cat-eLog .

It grows to over a meter long, so although you don't quite need a large swimming pool, it's probably hard to find a suitable AQUARIUM to keep it in...

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Mats

Posted: 26 May 2005, 19:37
by sidguppy
truly beautiful fish.

If you live in the tropics and have a nice big swimming pool with a whopping big filter and clean non-chlorinated water, it would be cool to keep it.

can't say that it can be kept in any other manner.

a normal pool would be dark or turbid; what's the use keeping such a beauty if you can't see it?

That pool should be 10-15 meters long at least; this sharklike creature looks like it's a highly active swimmer.

Posted: 28 May 2005, 01:52
by Piranha
:D I hear from my friend in Tialand, he sad this Pangasianodon gigas can be catch in dedicate season! But they cant catch female, only male is avaliable! He said that he have ship 2 pc to me if I want! :shock: Is it true??

Posted: 26 Jul 2005, 03:41
by Damion
Try a conchophilus, it looks very similar to the gigas but doesn't grow as big

Posted: 26 Jul 2005, 21:47
by medaka
I hear from my friend in Tialand, he sad this Pangasianodon gigas can be catch in dedicate season! But they cant catch female, only male is avaliable! He said that he have ship 2 pc to me if I want! Is it true?
one sure way to find out ! :wink: ask your friend is he/she willing to pay the penalty for you if they are wrong.
BIMHO
if a fish is on the list as CITES 1, the best place for them is exactly where they are protected.

Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 19:42
by L-14
Real gigas can get you in jail, but they are bred by both the fishery department and a few other places for aquaculture.

Major problems for gigas would-be owner are, however, several:

1] there are hybrid gigas + hypopthalmus around a lot that is hard to id....

2] often Pangasius bocourti are sold as gigas.....

For P. larnaurdi it is great choice for very, very large tanks [lots of swimming space need for a meter fish]. It is impressive and stocky, and healthy ones will have quite long finnage, bluish body and nice big dot around pectoral fin area. It is called "Pla Tepo" in Thailand and is considered good food fish ^_^

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/pa ... 1352_1.php
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Pangionasidon gigas

Posted: 15 Aug 2005, 22:17
by Osmium
:( I read very recently that a record-breaking example of this fish was captured in some sort of admirable(?) 'sporting-quest'. I'm quite sure that I could find the precise details/reports of this.

It's very difficult not to be drawn into the moral and philosophical issues raised by the curiosity of 'man'; the need to protect such species; and perhaps also, the ancient and innate(in-built) need to 'trophy-hunt'.

In a form of bizzare mitigation: at least the animal was relieved(stated in context) of some of its living gametes for future conservation, before it ultimately and perhaps needlessly(allegedly)died.

The mind boggles as to what purpose(s)such genetic material could possibly be put to use for, should they fall into the 'wrong' hands. No smutty jokes please - I am being perfectly serious, and have 'unholy//wholly inappropriate', prior and delibarate hybridisation examples in mind.

For the benefit of those that wouldgenuinely keep such creatures and for their continued existence.

I pity your accountant, when it comes to food bills, leaving the normally-necessary migratory-breeding requirements of these fish aside, just for the moment :wink:





Nick

Posted: 17 Aug 2005, 12:05
by beng
Nat Geog Mekong catfish photos:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... ntcatfish/

Do a search there for "catfish" for more interestiung stuff.

Pangiasidon gigas

Posted: 18 Aug 2005, 21:48
by Osmium
:) Thank you Beng,

I will do. I'm quite sure, however, that there is at least one species of 'marine catfish' :?

Catfish in Antartica? Hmmm! That's a very good question :lol: :the mind boggles.

I'll send you a p.m. as I do not want to appear to 'hijack' the 'thread'.




Nick

Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 18:18
by L-14
When did you hear that it was caught by sport-fishing? The more recent news of huge gigas being captured were caught by local native fisherman's net, and fishes captured that way usually ended up with many wounds that was often fatal.

Pangionasius gigas

Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 01:43
by Osmium
:? Perhaps this was a false assumption, based on the way that the fish was portrayed in some internationally displayed photographs. The rather immflamatory accompanying text (of the 'press'), certainly did not help either

I make no apologies for the way that my feelings regarding endangered species(of fish - especialy catfish) are needlessly trophy-hunted, are made clear.

I, myself, have learnt a tremendous amount from 'listening' to both the opinions of this Forum, and also from learning from its sound advice.

I am also aware that many of these species form part of a necessary local diet. To fail to acknowledge this would involve a kind of 'supreme hyprocricy'

I would never pretend to be an expert on 'catfish'
either', but equally I realise that the 'topics' may from time to time, become a little 'stagnated'.

Thank you, for helping me re-realise this,

I'm on your side, and never meant any form of harm,




Nick