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Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 15 May 2009, 22:58
by Marc van Arc
Just a quick note to tell you that not only (my) but also show serious intraspecific aggressive behaviour. The females seem pretty well, yet the males have bitten off caudal lobes and wounded areas near the anal fins. I wonder if this group of 7 relatively small specimens is too big? I've already reduced the T. intermedia group (initially 16 juvenile specimens) to 3 (1 male; 2 females) which seems to work better as they don't bump into each other constantly. I'll add some more wood shortly (although the tank provides plenty of hiding places) and hope they will spread a little for atm they hide/rest behind the (guarded) heater and the filter outlet - which sit next to each other.

Pls note that I don't witness this behaviour in any other auchenipterid species I currently keep.

However, on an interspecific level, the single appears to be a nuissance towards other species, probably because it needs a larger territory than other species I've kept so far. I really doubt that it's caused by the lack of company of its own kind for it would be the first auchenipterid ime to behave like that for such reason.

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 16 May 2009, 10:03
by sidguppy
I think it's time to go shopping for a larger tank for the small Auchenipterids ;)

ditch the 2 tiny tanks and set up a 1,5m 350-400L tank for the wee catfishes; it'll clear up a lot of problems

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 16 May 2009, 16:01
by nvcichlids
sidguppy wrote:I think it's time to go shopping for a larger tank for the small Auchenipterids ;)

ditch the 2 tiny tanks and set up a 1,5m 350-400L tank for the wee catfishes; it'll clear up a lot of problems

I second that motion

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 16 May 2009, 16:19
by sidguppy
it's not as easy as it looks;
to pull that stunt, Marc needs to relocate his daughters' room to the attic, move his second hobby to the then available room and set up a new tank there; a lot of work
:wink:

i can think of about a couple of thousand car folders to be moved and a huge load of car miniatures as well

moving house while not moving house!

and somewhere in that huge indoors migration a tanktransfer :shock:

ah well, he can have his laughs when I'm moving house.....we get the key of our extremely decadent villa on the first of july

that's the fun part.

the not so funny part is the moving of 3 households into 1 and that includes 3 smaller tanks (50-75G) to upstairs and 2 really big uns (1 new to be set up tank from Patrick and my 315G Madagascar tank) to put in the first and second living room.

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 16 May 2009, 17:45
by nvcichlids
Do you have any pics of the 315 gal Madagascar tank?

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 16 May 2009, 17:55
by Richard B
nvcichlids wrote:Do you have any pics of the 315 gal Madagascar tank?
Sid has posted many pics in various threads - you could search or them in threads about syno granulosus/granulosa or phyllonemus typus or paretroplus (most recently) - you won't be disappointed :D

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 16 May 2009, 18:15
by Marc van Arc
Whatever happens, I will NOT combine my paper hobby with something having to do with water, NO WAY.

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 16 May 2009, 19:24
by Bas Pels
Marc

Your reply made me think of carnaval masks - somehow :oops:

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 16 May 2009, 19:30
by nvcichlids
Richard B wrote:
nvcichlids wrote:Do you have any pics of the 315 gal Madagascar tank?
Sid has posted many pics in various threads - you could search or them in threads about syno granulosus/granulosa or phyllonemus typus or paretroplus (most recently) - you won't be disappointed :D

I just looked through some, but couldn't find any pics :( , do you have a link to a post with the pics?

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 16 May 2009, 19:37
by Richard B
nvcichlids wrote:
Richard B wrote:
nvcichlids wrote:Do you have any pics of the 315 gal Madagascar tank?
Sid has posted many pics in various threads - you could search or them in threads about syno granulosus/granulosa or phyllonemus typus or paretroplus (most recently) - you won't be disappointed :D

I just looked through some, but couldn't find any pics :( , do you have a link to a post with the pics?
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... us#p136925

http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... us#p157921

should start you off :D

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 16 May 2009, 23:21
by Marc van Arc
Bas Pels wrote:Your reply made me think of carnaval masks - somehow
Yep, papier-mâché (pronounced paper muh-shay) masks. Not what I'm after; the collection is much too valuable to me.

Right, good people, back to the auchenipterids.

The point of more space is well taken, yet I was merely surprised by the fact that some species show this intraspecific aggressiveness while others (like C. perugiae/cf. altae and A. coracoideus) don't show this at all.
I'll add the extra wood tomorrow and see how things work out.
To be continued :wink:

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 17 May 2009, 02:56
by nvcichlids
Will you post pics of the tank with the added wood?

Good Luck with the re-arrangement and hope it all works out!

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 22 May 2009, 06:09
by grokefish
OK wooden heads, Anyone want some free auchenipterids?

1 Jaguar catfish
1 Male False Jaguar catfish
2 Female False Jaguar Catfish.

Pick up only.

Matt

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 22 May 2009, 10:10
by sidguppy
wow

free Liosomadoras......

feeling a bit decadent, Grokefish? :lol:

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 22 May 2009, 12:19
by Marc van Arc
Matt, you're not going to quit the hobby, are you? I take it this is not because of a total focus on breeding Hoplos?

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 22 May 2009, 12:27
by Martin S
grokefish wrote:OK wooden heads, Anyone want some free auchenipterids?

1 Jaguar catfish
1 Male False Jaguar catfish
2 Female False Jaguar Catfish.

Pick up only.

Matt
Shame you're not closer :(

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 22 May 2009, 13:53
by Birger
grokefish wrote:OK wooden heads, Anyone want some free auchenipterids?

1 Jaguar catfish
1 Male False Jaguar catfish
2 Female False Jaguar Catfish.

Pick up only.

Matt



Shame you're not closer :(
Aww man isn't that the truth....should work it out somehow Martin.

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 22 May 2009, 20:43
by nvcichlids
Aww, I could have given them a great home aswell :(.. Hope everything is ok on your end~!

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 11 Jun 2009, 03:20
by Yann
Hi Guys!!!

Well finally bought myself a new camera..so here a few pictures of my Entomocorus cf gameroi
the male
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the female
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cheers
Yann

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 11 Jun 2009, 17:14
by nvcichlids
They look awesome!

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 11 Jun 2009, 18:33
by sidguppy
I like the last pic!
:mrgreen:

you shouldn't have rotated it; the real position shows the weirdness of this lil fishy
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:lol:

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 11 Jun 2009, 18:38
by nvcichlids
sidguppy wrote:I like the last pic!
:mrgreen:

you shouldn't have rotated it; the real position shows the weirdness of this lil fishy
Image
:lol:
I was thinking that the gravel looked a little out of place lol.

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 11 Jun 2009, 19:05
by sidguppy
I like these fish

Marc has a bunch and they are fun to watch. very weird, very funny.

unfortunately nor the tapwater here, nor my other fish are "auchenipterid friendly".
these wee little Entomocorus would end up in hell if I added them to any tank, so I'll just watch em at his place.

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 11 Jun 2009, 21:56
by nvcichlids
LOL, I have been debating adding some of the fry I have from my breeding group of auchenipterids (listed in signature) to my jag tank, to see if the fry would mingle with eachother and make it though! ( I would guess they would end up food though )

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 09:04
by Marc van Arc
Hi Yann,
Looking good!
Btw: afaic you can leave out the "cf-part"; these are genuine E. gameroi imo.

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 22:17
by Marc van Arc
A small addition to all pictures in this thread: here's a night shot of my Liosomadoras; she has become paler since her mate went to GW, but at night she's almost white :wink:
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Also to be seen: a pair of Trachelyopterus fisheri, a "turning" Triportheus angularis (top) and a Gymnocorymbus bondi

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 14 Jun 2009, 10:18
by sidguppy
pretty neat picture for such a nocturnal fish......

apart from pale, she looks healthy enough. not the finned billiardball it was before ;)

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 14 Jun 2009, 22:18
by Marc van Arc
Here's a few more
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Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 09:17
by sidguppy
the tracheliopterichthys look good!
they were very thin when bought.

IMO this is one of the best looking auchenipterids.
is this the male? i sort of spot a weird shape at the front of the anal fin.

Re: Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 12:01
by Martin S
Marc van Arc wrote:
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Marc
How are you finding these? Mine do not seemed to have grown any more, so assume adult size to be slightly smaller than C.perugiae, but with only one pair left (and amazingly, four very small young which are almost impossible to see/find), they are as active at feeding time as ever.
Do you know if you've had any spawns yet?
Martin