After reading a Facebook post by Junior Chuctaya and a reply from Emanuel Neuhaus, I learned that this Peruvian Ancistrus is part of a study and as of now it's being investigated as
sensu stricto, and the SL of the Peruvian fish is at least 4 cm longer than the max SL recorded for the Guyana populations. Molecular data is going to be important to unite or split the Peru and Guyana populations.
AUM 48162. The photo's caption reads "185.3 mm SL" for the specimen shown. But if you use the 1 cm scale bar of the photo to estimate the same specimen's SL, you obtain about 85 mm SL; and in the species text narrative (page 24, inside the "Specimens examined" paragraph), this same museum sample contains no specimen larger than 87.8 mm SL. I think it's pretty clear that the "185.3 mm SL" is a typographical error. So when I say Peruvian fish are 4 cm larger than the described populations, I'm going off the SL of my big male at about 140 mm SL as shown in my photo here.
I've had some of these for 16 months now and I'm kinda surprised they haven't yet bred. Patience....
bekateen wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 02:55
We returned to the same spot off the Nanay this afternoon. Hugely successful... but you'll have to wait till at least tomorrow for pictures. Among today's catch:
(also about 8-10 cm SL) and 2 or 3 smaller individuals.
Wow, did I underestimate this! 15.06 cm SL!
Eric when you go on your collecting trips do you ever take note of plants and trees growing in and around collection points most folks just check water parameters.
Jeanne
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 14 Apr 2023, 18:57
by bekateen
Hi Jeanne,
I have a few photos of the area, but I don't take close-up photos or document identities of the plants along the shorelines. In the streams where I collected, there are essentially no submerged plants. The stream beds are fine sand, leaf litter and submerged logs and branches. The shorelines are either bare mud because of human activity, or they are overgrown with long terrestrial grasses dangling into the water or in some cases there are floating mats of plants (I guess technically those are aquatic plants).
In the streams I've sampled, pH is between 4-6 and TDS is often down around 15-30ppm.
Cheers, Eric
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 09 May 2023, 02:41
by bekateen
bekateen wrote: ↑14 Apr 2023, 17:45
After reading a Facebook post by Junior Chuctaya and a reply from Emanuel Neuhaus, I learned that this Peruvian Ancistrus is part of a study and as of now it's being investigated as
sensu stricto, and the SL of the Peruvian fish is at least 4 cm longer than the max SL recorded for the Guyana populations. Molecular data is going to be important to unite or split the Peru and Guyana populations.
I've had some of these for 16 months now and I'm kinda surprised they haven't yet bred. Patience....
Trip #3: I'm back in lquitos at the Amazon Research Center for Ornamental Fishes to work, this time for four weeks. My first catch: I think it's another
, just bigger than the four adults I have from my last trip. In the river, when we first caught it,
my quick view made me think initially that it might be a different species or even genus because of its larger size. We were at or near the type locality of
Today we fished the main channel of the Rio Itaya. Caught Hypoptopoma, lots of Pims, one small shovelnose, two striped raphaels, some mouse cats, and one novel
Two fish are shown. The first one is much larger than the second.
Larger fish:
Smaller fish:
These fish are nothing like the Rineloricaria we caught either in 2022 [HERE] or 2021 [HERE] and [HERE], although they were all collected near each other. In my opinion, these are probably the least interesting (in regard to pigmentation) of the Rineloricaria species here.