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Centrmochlus perugiae, Tatia galaxias, My experiences with both species are easy to keep, easy to breed. Both species bred on a monthly basis, water conditions unimportant,best foods that promote breeding 1)frozen bloodworms 2) frozen glassworms ( sometimes labeled as white mosquito larvae)
Have actually watched galaxias female oozing eggs from her vent during the day in a spot between 2 large Anubias leaves. The galaxias deposit their gelatinous covered eggs in an inconspicuous site and leave them alone. The perugiae females find a snug hole or crook in a piece of driftwood( the size of the plastic 35mm. film containers )and care for the eggs until they are free-swimming. Fry were easy to raise using bbs. and were not hard to get to accept any other foods. Would love to try Jaguars if I could find some.

poor little me only has two Tatia intermedia (2 males)

Hi guys, I cannot find any jaguars! thats it I quit!

grokefish wrote:Hi guys, I cannot find any jaguars! thats it I quit!

So what are you going to do with your Auchenipterids?

Eat them!
No, I've been on this metal island for too long.
But I really am considering keeping only loricariidae, cause they come out all the time.
Hey marc my Uarus bred again so I moved them to another tank and the baby fish are doing great, i havn't seen them yet but Kat has told me they are getting quite big now.
Also when i moved them, almost imediately another pair laid eggs in the original tank!
Oh no I'm gonna have millions of Uarus now!

Hey Grokefish,
You can subtract my 20 Tatia perugiae off the list. They all caught the plague some new plecos brought in and every last one died of it. The disease has finally burnt itself out but at a cost of about $1000 worth of catfish by the time it was over with.

apistomaster wrote:You can subtract my 20 Tatia perugiae off the list. They all caught the plague some new pl*cos brought in and every last one died of it. The disease has finally burnt itself out but at a cost of about $1000 worth of catfish by the time it was over with.

Wow. That's a bummer . Are you going to keep them again or will you leave it at this?
Btw: there must have been more fish involved when I look at the amount of money. Those new plecos as well?

grokefish wrote: But I really am considering keeping only loricariidae

Are you in a hurry with getting rid of the Auchenipterids? If not we might figure something out.

grokefish wrote: Oh no I'm gonna have millions of Uarus now!

Eat THEM!!

Yes Grokefish, it killed many expensive Hypancistrus, Pecoltia, all my oil cats and even some female Halfmoon Bettas. It was the single largest disaster in my 40 years of fish keeping. I won't try to replace the oil cats but I do have seven new L134 coming in tomorrow so I'll have eight.
This was one of those diseases that ran through my collection like Ebola through an African village. Chilodonella was the only organism I could positively idendify under the microscope but that was probably secondary to what the real killer was. I wish I could keep chloramphenicol on hand but it is no longer available in the USA in water soluble capsule form as it is a dangerous drug, killing 1/40,000 from irreversble aplastic anemia. I used to have good success with similar diseases in the early seventies when I was bringing in box lots of fish from SA. The laws have changed and now the available drugs are not very effective because of the resistance that various bacteria have built up over the years.
After tomorrow's two shipments come in and if all goes well , I won't be bring in very many fish because I will have built up sufficient numbers of the various Corydoras and plecos I want to work with. I still want some Apistogramma hansbaenschi and Hypancistrus zebra but I can get those from friends who are breeding them.
It is hard to practice perfect lab practice and effective quarantine in a small fish room when you are shipping in a lot of fish from varied sources frequently. Sooner or later crosscontamination is inevitable.
I will be in the position of shipping out far more than shipping in now. Hopefully I'll start ejoying my hobby more. I have come close to quitting as I went through this plague upon my house.

Larry,
It remains a sad story. Hope you won't be visited by disasters like that again and regain some joy from the hobby.
Fwiw: I'm not Grokefish.

Hi Marc.
I know better. It was a crosswire in my head when I was toggling back and forth between screens. Sorry about that.
Thank you for your consolations.
Larry

Eat THEM!!

Maybe the grokefish WILL eat them....

Are you in a hurry with getting rid of the Auchenipterids? If not we might figure something out

No I'm not in any massive hurry to get rid of them,
I think CFC wants the trachycorystes (the grokefish) but I've only been home about 14 days in the last three months and havn't been able to sort it out.

I really don't know my bum from breakfast at the minute so am not going to make any decisions till the new year. If I do decide to emancipate the little fellas from my holding cells to another life of captivity I will contact you first marc.
BTW I will have to change my user name when the grokefish leaves, how do I do that?

grokefish wrote: BTW I will have to change my user name when the grokefish leaves, how do I do that?

Don't! Afaik you'll have to make a new account, which means starting all over again as Forum lurker....

I'll get back to you on the other issues asap.

I do indeed still want the grokefish but since i dont drive and my GF is point blank refusing to drive for 6 hours to collect in her words "another poxy fish)i havent been able to collect him, i rang around a few courier firms but to do a same day delivery they were quoting figures in the hundreds of pounds which is too much, over night next day delivery was much cheaper but i wouldnt like to take the risk with a large adult fish and especially with it being close to christmas time when they are likely to be a lot busier at the depots.

Another poxy fish, oh the crap they put up with.
Whenever I get that sort of nonsense (which is very rarely as she's into fish as well but not as much) I just go down the pub and blow 100 bucks on booze and tell her I've changed my hobby when I roll in at 3 in the morning.

Hmmm...

Don't! Afaik you'll have to make a new account, which means starting all over again as Forum lurker....

but once the grokefish has left i can no longer speak on his/her behalf, I am merely a medium for the grokefish to aid comunication to the stupid two leged dry ones that are foolishly squandering their inheritance and will soon be gone.....in an evolutionaty time line kinda way.....and the world will thus go back to the control of the grokefishs' neon masters.

CFC will soon be under the influence, and then will have to obey the grokefishs' every comand thus requireing to change username.

or some such nonsense.

lol!

still good ol' Grokefish needs to put his or her pectoral fins more on the edit-button; it saves posting 3 times.


don't change your accountname, mate; I'm not really a sid (well YMMV) and I ain't keeping guppies, that's for sure.

hmmmm

maybe I will once I got my Bathybates.
I hope they'll feed on smelt though.

That the result of this crappy computer, it does what it pleases.

I have never seen any of these catfish where i live, if anyone in toronto or around it know of a LFS that sells

Trachelyopterus galeatus

Liosomadoras oncinus

Trachelyopterichthys taeniatus

That would be great.

Daniel, how about all your Tatia juvies?

Marc van Arc wrote:Daniel, how about all your Tatia juvies?

Just fine!
The C. concolor(?) juveniles are growing quite slow, and are now maybe 20 mm.
The T. intermedia are already up to 55 mm TL. And last night I saw another clutch of eggs...

I'll be getting 3 tomorrow. Not from an LFS, but from a private seller who brought them along from a German wholesaler. Can't wait!

Marc van Arc wrote:I'll be getting 3 Ageneiosus vittatus tomorrow. Not from an LFS, but from a private seller who brought them along from a German wholesaler. Can't wait!

Some guys have all the luck!

So here they are. All three still sitting in the bag, acclimatizing.


On the loose. Doing their usual thing...sitting motionless.


One is even trying "how not to be seen".


Very broad head and a slim body. About 10 cms long. These adolescents do need some food!

Great assets.

tiny Ageneiosus.....are these what used to be called Tympanopleura?

they sure look beyond weird, nice catch!

sidguppy wrote:are these what used to be called Tympanopleura?

I see what you mean, but no, these are no Tympanopleura. A. vittatus is an original description. They are indeed tiny - I have kept one light on last night because I was quite scared something would happen to them; do all other woodcats look large all of a sudden - but they should grow to some 25 cms TL. Even then I think there are no fishes in the tank they could gulp away.
At the moment they are the smallest fish in the tank by far. To increase their growth they should obviously eat, which they all happily denied yesterday, although they were covered in bloodworms. That way they were able to meet the other fishes, which don't mind new comers having to eat. The Ageneiosids wouldn't budge.
Weird yes. Stubborn too.

Hey Marc those are cool at last you have some!
They look fab when they are big.

The new Grokefish!
I found him in the free-ads advertised as big black catfish eats other fish.
This one is a bit smaller and a complete git, I think it's going to need a tank to itself.
Here is a picture in solitary for bad behavior.

Hey Matt,
Great find. See to it that it doesn't eat "some woodcats you've forgotten about" for that would be too bad. Perhaps the piece of wood in the solitary still contains some T. galaxias for instance

I gave many of my woodcats and dorads to my mate including the galaxius and oil catfish as my collection is out of control and I don't want things getting eaten.
I'm gonna try him with my L350 to see how things go because the plec is bigger and pretty agro himself with mabey one of my pair o uarus.