2 10 inch Dwarf Giraffe cats for sale

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my temp is 84 degrees in their tank at the moment, you can email me at raydjr15@aol.com with your address, 150 is fine, please email me when you get the fish so i know they arrived safely, thanks.
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Viktor, For what it's worth your water temp's seem to be on the high side for these fish, with both auchenoglanis and parauchenoglanis, mine seem to thrive at 74-77 degrees F. and do well with a PH around 6.5 to 7 and especially avoid a high PH condition with which they will become stressed and stop feeding...
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Thanks much, Kirk!

The hot season got another month or so to go. The exhibit water temps will be in the 70-80 F in Nov-Apr. I hope to have the fish room under AC by the next summer's heat but won't be able to cool the air to much below 82-85 F. Since May, the fish room has been steady at 85-95 F.

My water's pretty soft, low TDS of ~50 ppm, pH is usually around 7, no more than +/- 0.2. This is straight from my 10,000 GPD RO system. My raw ground water is indeed extremely hard (~500-600 ppm Ca and Mg) and low end brackish (~800-900 ppm salinity) and is unusable (has 0.25-0.5 ammonia; yellow from tannin). It kills fish... eventually.
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Yes, hard to keep tanks cool with high ambient temp's in the room, haven't kept them in higher temp's so don't know how they do under those conditions but will likely be o.k.. One reason I like cooler temp's is these fish seem to have high O2 requirements so therefore more oxygen available with cooler water. I too have hard tap water (don't know the numbers) and as a result harder to bring down and stabilize PH. Of course any spike in ammonia will stress 'em in a major way and they stop feeding, as with all fish..
Assuming you have gravel in your tanks, which they like, they'll keep it nicely clean. Enjoy 'em Viktor!
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I see. Thanks, again. No, no substrate. Bare tanks for now by design. You must have not seen my vids http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... &start=180 My other sifters Oxydoras nigers seem happy to me. Maybe the g-cats will be too.
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yellowcat wrote:... Well I can say that the photo's show that these fish are definitely the 'bouche' variety of a. occidentals, I obtained mine from Rehoboth Aquatics, the first to import them I believe and I raised and sold a pair years ago when they grew past 15", the second owner sold them again when they reached around 24" and were reported to continue to grow larger after...
@yellowcat Kirk, just thought I'd bring up this "bouche" from the same source, Rehoboth. Thread by @MarkSmith. It appears his has been stuck at 1' but we desperately need an update from him. http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... 48#p289940

Perhaps it is the gender difference you've brought up? Could it be that drastic? Granted IDK how long it took yours to get to 15" and then to 24"+ and what size Mark's fish is today.
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It's been around 7 years or so since I sold my 'bouche' cats. My best recollection is that I raised them from 2" to 14 or 15" in about a year and a half then sold 'em. Two years later I contacted the second owner about another rare fish I was selling,( a seriously qualified fish keeper and noted author with a PHD in Icthyology), I asked about the fish, which by then had been sold as they had outgrown his tanks. (His fishroom was another building on his property!) He said they had grown past 24" and were still growing in their 3rd home, kept by a friend of his. I'll note that my a. wittei male has grown from 2" to 13"+ in 11 months. In any case, so many conflicting reports regarding growth and size with auchenoglanis sp. in general, I'm sure you'll be greatly helpful with your two to further narrow the controversy in time...
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Per Mark's latest reply of today, IMHO there is no or not much contradiction between yellowcat's and Mark's reports.

I think it is safe to say that offering and advertising "bouche" as a dwarf Auchenoglans is wrong.
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How those Giraffe cats doing pal??????? Any pics?
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Doing well. Not growing too much but little by little there is some growth. Probably 16"-18" now. You can check out my channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCeGmo ... =0&sort=dd

These are the latest videos of the tank they are in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rfHh47VTkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOYUplgnVfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX8Y7elSPqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bp7m4O8mvo

They have always been in this tank, so you can watch any video from this tank #21, 4500 gal, "peaceful" community.
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