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Re: What kind of plec is this given its shape and size
Posted: 22 Jul 2015, 17:26
by TheDoctor
panaque wrote:- You cannot compare a foul neglected 4ft fish tank with a huge and very deep low productivity lake.
- So now you're saying that this thing can survive on the bread that people feed the ducks? I'd say you are clutching at straws.
- No two species combined to create a plec. That is not how evolution works. They are definitely not reptiles. Their morphology (internal and external structures) and their DNA tell us that they are a family (Loricariidae) of catfishes (Siluriformes) which are an order of ray-finned fishes. Wikipedia is a good place to start further background research:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catfish
Anyway, it seems your mind is closed to the possibility of your theory being incorrect, so I will say no more on the subject.
it was not neglected I changed the water every week cleaned the filters and it still went black/green after only a few days and it was under a lean too with shade filtered by two fluval internal filters in venturi mode for aeration was fitted with a large black metal hood and cover trays to stop things getting in and the fish out of the outside tank
wikipedia really I got my info from PFK a lot more trustworthy then wikipedia will ever be also i'm open to that it is another kind of omnivores species but we don't have many reptilian looking fish species in the freshwater habbitat and according to what we know of what species that could fit that description they are all too small
Bullhead (Cottus gobio) grows to 15cm feeds on invertebrates, such as mayfly and caddisfly larvae, and the eggs of other fish.
Burbot (Lota lota) grows to 50cm
Sturgeon (Acipenser sturio) grows 3-5m long
Wels catfish but no one has said the monster is a slimy looking thing with whiskers
those are the species that are the most reptilian looking except the wels catfish
Re: What kind of plec is this given its shape and size
Posted: 22 Jul 2015, 17:52
by racoll
What happened!? The thread was going so well!
Eric, I blame you! ;)
Re: What kind of plec is this given its shape and size
Posted: 22 Jul 2015, 17:58
by bekateen
Re: What kind of plec is this given its shape and size
Posted: 22 Jul 2015, 17:58
by bekateen
racoll wrote:What happened!? The thread was going so well!
Eric, I blame you! ;)
Racoll, I can't take credit, but I'll fall on this sword if you need me to.
Cheers, Eric
Re: What kind of plec is this given its shape and size
Posted: 22 Jul 2015, 17:59
by Jools
I'll have to stop writing features for PFK!
Jools
Re: What kind of plec is this given its shape and size
Posted: 22 Jul 2015, 18:18
by bekateen
practicalfishkeeping wrote:Spined and armoured, pet catfish that are too large are sometimes released into the wild to cause mayhem. Rupert Collins identifies a group that needs plenty of room and responsible owners…
Jools wrote:I'll have to stop writing features for PFK!
Jools, Don't blame yourself: Racoll, now that I read the PFK article cited above, I realize that, no, I don't need to fall on the sword. This one rests squarely at your feet!
Re: What kind of plec is this given its shape and size
Posted: 22 Jul 2015, 18:41
by racoll
bekateen wrote: TheDoctor wrote:
practicalfishkeeping wrote:
Spined and armoured, pet catfish that are too large are sometimes released into the wild to cause mayhem. Rupert Collins identifies a group that needs plenty of room and responsible owners…
Haha, I wouldn't believe a word that guy writes. Better off with Wikipedia I think!
Re: What kind of plec is this given its shape and size
Posted: 23 Jul 2015, 01:09
by Birger
Hehe yah gotta watch out for that Rupert guy...
so my theory it is Jools and Allan on a catfish shaped raft could work...
nice to see a lighthearted thread...
Birger
Re: What kind of plec is this given its shape and size
Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 12:21
by coelacanth
Hmmm, 10-12,000 years ago Loch Ness was under a mile of ice.
There are no catfish in Loch Ness, Wels, Plecs or otherwise.
Occam's razor says it's a distorted wake.
The monster hunter with the Wels theory is just scrabbling to justify all those wasted years when he could have been keeping real little monsters in fishtanks, we have Ogres, Devils, Witches, Ghosts and baby-eating Banjos, ones that drink blood, others than eat corpses from the inside out. Why make stuff up when Catfish can provide all the fascination and wonder you need? (although C ichlids may be even cooler).