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Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 28 Dec 2009, 23:18
by sojapat
Glad you had a good visit , You are more than welcome ,please let me know in advance if there are some particular fish I can help you obtain
ie Leporacanthicus ,I can see what we can do.
The L183 took a beasting. No girls left .
Hope all the fish made it home ok?
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 28 Dec 2009, 23:54
by Richard B
I suspect Mats is acclimatising fish...
Neil, extremely impressive as always
- what was the
pim in the top tank above & to the left of the
? Was it
or something else? ( I think maybe RedTailRob would be interested to know)
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 01:25
by MatsP
Anyone who was part of the outing (or anyone else for that matter) is welcome to comment in this thread.
What I got was:
(L183): Eight, but I'm only keeping three of these. Daniel and Jamie H are picking up the rest - I'll PM you with details.
"Butterfly Pleco" - got myself a trio of these (2f/1m)
- Unusual fish, £3.95 - couldn't resist, despite not quite knowing where they will go... Three of them too.
For Martin S:
Two woodcats that I still don't quite know what they are - Martin, if you know, let me know.
What I saw and this is by no means an account of ALL the fish in the shop - I don't think any single person can possibly remember what all the fish was:
Several variations of Gold nugget (L177, L081, "Startdust" gold nugget)
L200
L200 Hi-Fin
(L129). £10.50
£9.50 - not very large.
(LDA72).
spp. £16 ea, 2 @ £30.
- very nice.
There where LOTS of other fish.
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Mats
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 09:13
by Martin S
Am really sorry I missed it, but as always, Mats made sure I didn't miss out on the only woodcats in store, so even I came away with fish from Pier
I look forward to seeing your new fish Mats - let me know when you're about (I'm working this week, and have my daughter this weekend...but am sure I could talk her into popping over with me
)
Martin
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 09:32
by Richard B
For discussion on Martins woodcats see the "what auchenipterids are being kept?" thread,
super 16.00
purple pencilfish 6.50
apisto pandurini 13.50 per pair
both species of Horabagrus
18.00
Lamontichthys sp
- real big healthy specimens
32.00
24.00
2" 95.00
Gymnotus carapo - 9.50
http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fish/ba ... fefish.php
Blue Mystus (no ID)
- all 3 phases
and sooooooo much more, i've probably missed most of the loricariids... giant 2 foot plus panaque, XL
, pairs of sturisoma, pseudacanthicus, hypancistrus - the list goes on & on
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 15:42
by ricefish
Thanks MatsP,Richard B andTP for putting up with my lack of catfish knowledge.The selection at pier was overwhelming i was happy with my Corys and livebearers hopefully it was not my last visit to Pier
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 15:49
by MatsP
Thanks for coming along. It was nice to have some equally loonatic come along... ;)
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Mats
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 10:33
by danielryan
mats, thanks for looking after my fish for a couple of days until I could get to you.
I was very suprised to see one of them sucking the glass this morning, but the other 2 were no-where to be seen, which is what I expected!
hopefully I will be able to make the next road trip thats planned in the new year.
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 13:57
by Coryman
I have a query about the C. sp punctatus you picked up. Do you know if they were the true species from Suriname. I ask because the image shown looks more like the species CW039 from the Madre de Dios in Peru. At the moment C. punctatus is high on my hit list.
Ian
Corydoras punctatus
Image courtesy Ian Fuller & Corydorasworld.com
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 14:06
by Martin S
Ian
I don't think anyone purchased the C.punctatus - the list of fish were those that were seen (well, at least remembered as being available), so it may be worth sending a PM to Neil to see if he can help.
HTH
Martin
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 14:15
by Richard B
Hi Ian
I don't think any of us actually got the punctatus - in my post earlier in the thread, i was recording things of interest for those unable to make it on the day. They were labelled punctatus 'super' & it struck me the fine body spotting was accurate for the species in relation to the size of the specimens (approx 28mm). The pic in my earlier post is just a link to the cat-e-log page.
I have no clue about origin - so you'd have to speak to Neil - the pic you have posted shows far fewer body spots than those seen - are these smaller fish or is the density & size of spots typical regardless of size?
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 20:07
by Coryman
Hi Richard,
The image I have posted is of a pair of adult C. punctatus the picture from the catalog is definitely of the undescribed species CW039. The spots are a lot smaller but the main visual difference being there are distinct vertical bars in the caudal of C. punctatus
After a little more checking there is another similar species from the Rio Uruara in the state of Amazonas, this has the number CW037
Ian
Corydoras species CW037
Image courtesy Marcus Hufgard & Corydorasworld.com
Corydoras sp CW039
Image courtesy Hans-George Evers & Corydorasworld.com
Ian
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 21:49
by MatsP
Ian,
I need to understand this better, are you saying that the pictures in the Cat-eLog of
(where the first picture says "Collected in French Guyana", which isn't quite Suriname, but at least not a thousand miles "wrong"). The other three pictures look similar to me. And they look different from both CW039 and CW037: The tail is clearly striped, similar to the picture of the pair that you posted.
I am by no means saying you are wrong - you are a much better expert on corys than I am, but I'd like to understand what we are talking about here.
And after writing all that, I get the idea that the whole discussion is about what the fish in the shop were, rather than what is in the Cat-eLog - if that's the case, just say so, and accept my apologies for being daft.
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Mats
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 15:32
by Richard B
Thanks to the pics Ian has posted, i think the fish at Pier, are cw039 not punctatus
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 17:48
by sojapat
Hi .They Came in as Super Punctatus and are Brazilian ,
They are labelled as this in the tank?
I cant get fish from French Guyana .
The Megalonema platycephalum was the fish in the top tank .
Not Piranampus ... I like them ..Very Blue !
Glad you all enjoyed the visit .
Hope to see you all soon
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 18:51
by Richard B
Cheers for the clarifications Neil
Hopefully see you in a few weeks (or thereabouts)
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 18:57
by Richard B
I forgot to menion one of the prettiest fishes & certainly one that caught my eye & it's not even a catfish
Pridii loach - absolutely stunning!
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 20:21
by Dave Rinaldo
Richard B wrote:I forgot to menion one of the prettiest fishes & certainly one that caught my eye & it's not even a catfish
Pridii loach - absolutely stunning!
From
Loaches Online
Schistura pridii
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 21:59
by Richard B
Dave Rinaldo wrote:Richard B wrote:I forgot to menion one of the prettiest fishes & certainly one that caught my eye & it's not even a catfish
Pridii loach - absolutely stunning!
From
Loaches Online
Schistura pridii
So whatta you all think - i can tell you they look much better in reality but hell they're small. I understand they're quite endangered in a tiny little area in the wild
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 22:15
by RickE
Very pretty, but did you follow the link to loaches online and read the '100 illegal imports' thing?
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 23:18
by Richard B
I saw it earlier - it seems to suggest that that amount couldn't be collected from the unprotected areas but it is dangerous territory to suggest such things without all the facts. Although the small tank at Pier had plenty of cover, i only saw one of these, & it wasn't being shy.
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 23:21
by MatsP
sojapat wrote:Hi .They Came in as Super Punctatus and are Brazilian ,
They are labelled as this in the tank?
I cant get fish from French Guyana .
The Megalonema platycephalum was the fish in the top tank .
Not Piranampus ... I like them ..Very Blue !
Glad you all enjoyed the visit .
Hope to see you all soon
I enjoyed the shop visit - not quite sure about the driving bit...
I'm definitely there for a visit during the CSG conference... Which is only a bit over 2 months from now!
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Mats
Re: Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)
Posted: 03 Jan 2010, 00:36
by sojapat
Hi ,Shistura Pridii is not endangered as a species. I have good information on this .It is however a beauty
Matts thanks for bringing the guys , its hard to get the new fish without support of guys like you who will travel .
Nice when the fishes get to the people that want them.