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Great pictures! The growth you're getting with your Panaque is awesome. I'd love to see more if/when you catch the others.

3 pictures of this morning of a "supposed" Panaque schaeferi

shot under only 3000 liters, in "big cleaning mode", fish are stressed and water is full of dirt in the flow...







this baby one is 42 cm TL...

Very nice, I don't think I've seen the belly pattern of adults before. What makes you hesitant to call these ?

The growth you get out of these guys always astounds me. It can't be far from what you'd expect to find in their natural habitat. What is your water change schedule and feeding regime?

Waterchange is a big topic at home... 100% weekly which allows me To spare monney on filtering. Water is much less expensive than electricity.

Considering feeding : they get 3-4 cucumbers weekly and a big full hand of Sturgeon pellets daily. Plus the "meaty" stuff Cichla, stingrays and arowanas let fall on the Bottom. And lots of wood of course

I'm starting a dry season stimulation today as I think my Fish could be mature enough to try something

For ID of them I have doubts... Mainly because 2 of them stay smaller and have a very différent coloration and pattern. Even if they look quite similar for the bodyshape

For filtration are you still using the big box 'pond' type filter?

Do you have any pictures of the different ones? I recently saw a bunch of about 20 juveniles (4-8cm) and there was quite a lot of variation amongst them. Most were patternless with a dull grey body colour, but some individuals showed creamy/grey base colour and pattern throughout the body extending in to the fins. The only larger ones I've seen were about 25cm and mostly patternless.

I'm still using the "gravity pond box" (Oase BioSmart Set 14000) in complement to a bigger pool sand filter (12m3/h with 90 kg sand). Quite good if coupled with the massive water changes... my problem is the fact that every single fish in this tank is a big (to giant) predator or a big messy-trouble-shit maker...

unfortunately, I don't have any picture of the 3 other Panaque schaeferi... I'm still trying to shoot with the GoPro3... I'll keep in touch about this.

the 2 smaller "P. schaeferi" are more or less like the one you show on your last picture. When they arrived home, they were much like the ones on your first picture, particularly considering the caudal fin.

hi you all,

a few vids... with Cichla kelberi, Arowanas and Astronotus occelatus

another one... with Panaque schaeferi & L191

last one... feeding Cichla, and a close-up of L191 and close up of Stingrays

interesting video of an Astronotus, guarding... but guarding what ???



enjoy !

just for fun :

feeding the Arowanas & Cichlas :

we all live in a yellow submarine…

Great movies ! The cihclas are great.....very nice

Probaly the astronautus guarding fry ??

Back from the 4. L-Number Days in Hannover, I discovered my fish being quite hungry and agressive towards eachother... Take a look at the first feeding for 4 days...



Agreed, nothing to do with catfish... but awesome all the same...

The cichlas are really hungry...

an update of the Big One…

with a fascinating close up sequence of Panaque schaeferi "scrunching" a cucumber.
and a few others…

enjoy !

Nice!

Jools

The panaque seems to be a big guy....45 cm ???

Nice footage

The screwdriver drives me nuts Nice Tank/Pond!

rob rensen wrote:The panaque seems to be a big guy....45 cm ???

Nice footage

Yep ! Almost 5 years old and >45 cm TL

Jobro wrote:The screwdriver drives me nuts Nice Tank/Pond!

sometimes, you just need a weight to drop down this F.... cucumber

quite a long time...

a quick shot of Panaque schaeferi

Wow...amazing tank. Thx for sharing. Please post more

ElTofi wrote:quite a long time...

a quick shot of Panaque schaeferi

These are livebearers, right? Uhm I mean livefood xD

a short vid which was sleeping on my smartphone...



out of Catfish scope, but...

Very cool. Thanks so much for the update. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying we all enjoy seeing the updates and see how your tank and fish are doing after all these years. I've followed this thread since the beginning and it's nice to see it's still going strong.

shame on me... I've just realized I didn't feed the topic here properly, even with (quite) stunning vids on Panaques shot during these last months...

my fault...

undate in population in 2017 :

Love it!

Jools