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farid

amazing pictures!! nice job with them!

Tahnk you andy. it's getting more difficultnot to catch them witht the camera as they are more activ. actually i leave them until they get tired. i use 2-3 animals so sometimes thes lay behind each other so the chance is bigger to get something .

@Havaard
do you have any more pics of your babies

regards
farid

Farid wrote: do you have any more pics of your babies

Not at the moment, but I should take some new photos soon.

UPDATE:

16mm






farid

Hi Farid!!!

Really nice!!!
great pictures as usual!!
Cheers
Yann

Merci

thanks yann...its a torture to catch them on photo but it's worth it

farid

more Pics, live from the "Inhanging" tank





farid

Your photos are excellent

hi havaard,
same same .....

but different...

i like yours aswell i miss still a nice picture of my adult ones...

thanks
farid

i will set them free in the parents tank now

farid

Farid,

How large ar they, and how old?

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Mats

hi mats,
about 15-17mm i counted 32 before i released them

farid

update:
he's fanning again

farid

Hi Farid!!!

Thats a great news to hear!!! and the first batch is looking great!!
Nice one mate!!
cheers
Yann

hi yann,
thanks the first babygroup is doing well in the adult tank!

i didnt even do much in the L200 tank feeding normaly and doing my waterchanges...as my "potfilter" is not really doing it's job well i kept cleaning it in compination with big waterchanges (tap water) so tonight i have to measure the parameters as i actually missed that.

i usually dont try adjust any past parameters again to hope for any spawning...but usually i meet these parameters doing what i have to...using my fingertips

more soon

farid

UPDATE:
the second bunch of eggs is hatching...the first L200 fry is out of the cave. this time not a early hatch! it looks quite good.

farid

Farid wrote:UPDATE:
the second bunch of eggs is hatching...the first L200 fry is out of the cave. this time not a early hatch! it looks quite good.

farid

That's good news. Congratulations.

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Mats

I do envy you guys so much for having the chance to breed this beautyful catfish, i wish it happened here in my 720 litre tank

How big are the parents ?
Could any of you post a recent taken picture of the breeding adults ?

thanks mats

i have a male that measures about 17cm, the breeding one is maybe 14,5cm

farid

That is so strange. My breeding male is also one of the smaller ones.

hi havaard,
why strange? also my smaller L204 male used to be in a cave with a big female while the massive male always chased all inhabitants just away... that time i had 2males and 2 females in a 100x60x40cm tank (they are still in the tank!!)

farid

UPDATE:
i emptied the cave tonight...22 fry in total...i'll see how they manage...

farid

To Farid and Haavard,

Once you get your first spawn from L200 or any of your other species of Plecos, do you find that routine maintenance is sufficient?

That has been my experience with the plecos I have bred so far, L134, L260 and L333.
I don't do anything extraordinary. Just feed what foods they like best, make regular large water changes and ensure their water has high dissolved oxygen levels.

Waiting for the first spawn is what I find the hardest part.

It has been a pleasure seeing the photos of the fry as they develop. The latest photos where some of the L200 characteristic color and spotted pattern are beginning to show are especially nice.

hi apisto,
for me i have to say...this time the fry is already 1cm large.
this should work better than the first time with many early hatched ones. to compare with L201..of a bunch of two spawnings i only have 2 201 fry today so in compare to that the L200 were easy. this time i dont had any early ones...so two days later the large ones measure 1cm and getting a bit colour already...out of 22 i guess 2-3 died ..the rest should make it...maybe 2 more could die...I'll see

the main problem so far with the L200 was that if they dont hatch proper out of their eggskin...there will be a problem. imagine a part of the belly is out. building a ball sticking out of the egg...a few hours later the whole fish hatches. this first ball will stay more or less in the shape it had before. and exactly this part is dying in the next 12h then the fish stucks to the glass (bottom) and while the yellow is desolving the fish is still wiggleing it's tail...a few hours later you will find maybe a live body but no more yellow ...so this was the main thing to worry about in the first three days.

otherwise soon as they get stable i have to say it's like with all the rest (L134 397 181 and so on maybe one or two will go "HOP" in the first week but after nothing should happen.

farid

No doubt about it, if the parents provide the brood care, the development of the larvae proceeds much better and with higher survival rates than when one has to deal with caring for prematurely ejected larvae using an artificial set up.

..so far there's not much difference then

farid

UPDATE:
17-18 fry are slowely getting greyish. the pelvicfins are well to recognize!

farid

update:

out of 22 fry i have still 18 babies... 15mm at the moment and growing

the last hatch measures about 20mm now...still small

@Havaard
how big is your first group of babies?? it seems they grow really slow...

regards
farid

I think they are around 3.5-4cm.