Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

[wrasse]

Hi Marc,
I gave mine 24 hours to settle before I tried to feed them. I did not have a free quarantine tank so I put them in a tank of mixed corys. The tank is lit well enough by the room light and is also near the window, but it does not have its own light... the video I posted had no additional lighting.
Their favourite resting place is under a piece of bogwood that leans against the front glass... so they are always visible.
I think the first food I offered was finely chopped earthworm. They also get a shrimp paste that I make, but they will eat finely chopped raw shrimp as well. Now, they eat dried foods too.
If you can present the food right in front of them, this helps get them started... same with any catfish. Try using a wooden skewer or maybe long tweezers that planted-tank people use.

What other fish are yours living with?

- Richard

[Marc van Arc]

Thanks for your reply, Richard.

If you can present the food right in front of them, this helps get them started... same with any catfish.

One problem: I have no idea where they are.....

What other fish are yours living with?

Pls see My Cats, species listed under Tank 2

[wrasse]

Marc,

I can see why you don't know where they are! It's a beautiful show tank.
I would be fascinated to see your tank in action... at feeding time! You have quite a mix of woodcats.
Do your other cats feed with the lights on?
It might be worth adding several small pieces of bogwood along the front, leaning on the front glass, with just enough gap beneath them for woodcats. Then you can observe and target feed them, ensuring they get their fill and 'training' them to feed.
Once they are all 'trained', you could gradually remove the small bogwood pieces, if you want to.
What size are your new otorongos?

[wrasse]

This pic shows the bogwood 'den' at the front of the tank. It's home to the otorongos and also another recent addition... 4 x Tatia 'yellow-tail tiger' which I'm really pleased with. They are about as close to T. Galaxias as I have seen. There's a tank full at Pier... easily overlooked!

[Marc van Arc]

I'll get back to your remarks asap; just wanted to say those Tatia would definitely be galaxias in my book. Very nicely patterned and people who've been after "galaxias" (Martin?) pls take the opportunity and grab some while they're still around. Great find.

Btw: as I'm unable to seen a tail, I take it they're yellow(-ish); as the "tiger" makes little sense wrt the pattern, could it be a reference to the Rio Tigre (Peru)?

[The.Dark.One]

I don't think they are galaxias. The locality isn't right as well as the pattern. I think they are Tatia sp B.

[jeremybasch]

Can I say wow! 100 pages! I love Auchenipterids!

[Marc van Arc]

I don't think they are galaxias. The locality isn't right as well as the pattern. I think they are Tatia sp B.

Perhaps I didn't express myself well enough. Whether it is galaxias or not, I wouldn't care. This is imo as close to galaxias as I have ever seen and certainly not "your average intermedia".
Too bad the spots wear off, as can be seen in Steve's pictures.

@ Steve: is your system of labelling fishes with letters "officially" accepted? I've also seen it used in the Iwokrama fish list, where Tatia B & C are mentioned. Are these 2 the same species as your sp. B & C?
The reason I ask this, is because people may get confused as there are none such species in the Clog, in which case your link is their only reference.

@ Otorongos: I saw 2 specimens last night and they seemed okay (no sunken bellies, damages or such). They sit much higher than I had expected; I was searching the bottom area, but found them halfway and upwards. That gave me good hope for the other 2 and made me happy

@ Jeremy: yes, you can. I said it too . Looking forward to 2,000 replies (shortly, I reckon) and 100,000 views (may take a while).

[Yann]

Hi!!

Those Tatia look really close to Tatia galaxias I tend to agree, seems they have those white spots on the caudal as well

Spots look smaller than on Tatia sp B don't you think Steve??

Cheers
Yann

[The.Dark.One]

I don't think they are galaxias. The locality isn't right as well as the pattern. I think they are Tatia sp B.

Hi Marc, no you expressed yourself well, I read your original post that way, I was just saying what I thought about the fish. They certainly are very nice regardless of what they are.

I've not seen it anywhere else to be honest. Is Iwokrama a wholesaler?

Yes, I noticed 100 pages and thought we had all done very well

Here's to another 100!

[The.Dark.One]

Hi!!

Those Tatia look really close to Tatia galaxias I tend to agree, seems they have those white spots on the caudal as well

Spots look smaller than on Tatia sp B don't you think Steve??

Cheers
Yann

I've seen the tankful of these fish and the spot sizes vary. Also, the juvenile in my photo is very small. As they get bigger the spots get smaller until they almost fade out. I will take some pics of them if i can and compare the cranial morphology etc, then we should know for sure. The locality details is putting me off too.

[Marc van Arc]

Is Iwokrama a wholesaler?

No, this is who they are & what they do:
http://www.iwokrama.org/wp/

And this is their fish list:
http://www.iwokrama.org/wp/wp-content/u ... H-LIST.pdf

[MattP]

This is my favourite thread on pc and has got me very interested in putting a group of woodcats in a new 4 footer I'm setting up this week. Those Tatia look very tempting from pier so thanks for all the info on Auchenipterids. Great stuff!

Cheers Matt


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[Marc van Arc]

Thanks Matt and very nice to see this thread has inspired you. Looking forward to pictures once you've made your choice and the fish have settled in your new tank!

[wrasse]

Hi Matt,

you are very lucky to be quite near to Pier Aquatics.
Here's a another woodcat taster to whet your appetite...

[MattP]

Thanks Matt and very nice to see this thread has inspired you. Looking forward to pictures once you've made your choice and the fish have settled in your new tank!

Your welcome Marc, I intend to read more of the earlier posts before deciding which way to go species wise..those otorongo looked very nice at pier but I'm guessing there will be very few left judging by earlier posts!

Cheers Matt

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[MattP]

I feel very lucky having such a quality shop on my door step, I'm able to go whenever I like, which can do some serious damage to the wallet!!
What species are you hand feeding? That must of taken a lot of patience to acheive?!

Cheers Matt

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[wrasse]

Spinipterus sp. (1) = Otorongo

[Marc van Arc]

Alex was here two days ago. After an afternoon of semi hard labour in the garden (he needed some plants for the garden of his new home) we took some time in the evening to watch the fishes.
He was quite surprised by the visibility of Ageneiosus cf atronasus, Trachydoras and especially Trachelyopterichthys (of which we also saw a mating).
I couldn't show him the otorongos, though.....

[The.Dark.One]

Spinipterus sp. (1) = Otorongo

Don't let your head get even bigger but they are looking much better and bigger than mine. Well done!

[wrasse]

LightOne... I don't recommend you put your hand in the tank... they might mistake you for food and drag you in. That's if your fish ever show themselves ever.

I just like posting pics and vids, showing their behaviour.

And I'm on a mission!!! - Neil made a challenging remark years ago... saying that when you release woodcats into a tank, that's the last you see of them.

[Marc van Arc]

Neil made a challenging remark years ago... saying that when you release woodcats into a tank, that's the last you see of them.

I'm sure he'll know better by now, otherwise he wouldn't have so many auchenipterids on his stocklist

[The.Dark.One]

Nice Tetranematichthys wallacei

Female:




Two different males:

[wrasse]

beautiful pics Steve.
See! You are talented, after all...

[kruseman]

Very nice!

Did you buy them yourself, Steve?

[The.Dark.One]

Thanks wrasse

No, they belong to a friend of mine

[Marc van Arc]

After quite a stay in my large tank, the

Trachelyopterus sp(3)

are going to their new tank tomorrow. Arjan Kruseman is going to provide them a good home.
While catching them, I can do a head count and see how many otorongo's I still have in that tank. To that amount 3 more will be added which I received today and are currently in the small tank.
I'm also expecting some

Hemidoras stenopeltis

from Alex, who's going to stop keeping S-Am catfishes as he's fed up with the water problems he constantly faces.

[kruseman]

Looking forward to it.

[Martin S]

Be a good opportunity for some pictures...

As an aside, I had to move some wood around the other evening when catching the pair of

L183

, and only saw 6 of the 8 Otorongos - am hoping the other two were hiding somewhere else - have not seen any remains, and there is nowhere for them to get trapped, so fingers crossed I still have all 8. Worse case, the 6 I saw are all fat and healthy which is a good sign.

Martin

[kruseman]

Be a good opportunity for some pictures

I got them today.

Me and my family were somehow overwhelmed by the sheer size of these driftwoodcatfish when removing the lid of the bucket this afternoon.
My 5 year-old daughter called them "Hippofish". The mouth is pretty wide indeed.
It's by far the largest catfish I've ever kept.
A wonderfull species imo

So: Thanks to Marc ( thanks again!)I'm the proud keeper of: