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Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 03 Nov 2008, 11:05
by DutchFry
I've been away for a while, and what do i see when i come back??
This is great news Haavard!
I've followed your steps for more or less three years now, watching the process of building this incredible tank and finally you get what you deserve! i really believe you deserve this, you worked so hard to achieve this!
the pictures are really great as usual! keep us posted!
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 03 Nov 2008, 20:49
by Farid
Hey Haavard,
i just found this thread. this is just amazing...i'm so happy for you
regards from zurich,switzerland
farid
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 03 Nov 2008, 23:12
by Haavard Stoere
Thank you Farid and DutchFry
All fry are ok, but there is not much development to be seen. Yolc sac is gettng even smaller, but they are not ready to eat yet. I think one update every two-three days is more appropriate at this point, and will make it more interesting.
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 04 Nov 2008, 08:31
by Bas Pels
You might be right Haavard
But, on the other hand, I did not read nay complain about too much pics. Actually all pics were received with a lot of thanks
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 04 Nov 2008, 08:35
by andywoolloo
but they change so much every day, I don't wanna miss any of it!
but whatever is easier for you. I like whatever you are willing to share with us!
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 04 Nov 2008, 20:09
by Haavard Stoere
Todays update:)
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 04 Nov 2008, 20:38
by MatsP
Looks like a light meal is starting to be necessary.
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Mats
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 04 Nov 2008, 21:09
by Cristoffer Forssander
I would start to feed them tomorrow. The stomach is still yellow... but I can't see any damage in trying now... they can develop different...
/Cristoffer
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 04 Nov 2008, 21:22
by apistomaster
Most pleco fry do begin sampling foods as the last traces of their yolk sack disappear so feeding them now will prevent any lapse in food intake at such a critical point in their development. Once they are a month old and still growing well, I'd be feeling much relieved.
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 07 Nov 2008, 19:58
by Haavard Stoere
The baby hemis are eating and developing normally. Yesterday when I was cleaning out the breeder box with a large syringe I accidentally lost all the fry into the main tank. If I thought this would be a real problem for the fry I would take out all the rocks and try to catch as many as possible. I think they are doing fine in the main tank with extra heavy feeding and waterchange. It is bad news for this thread though... Next week and the week after I will do some travelling to give lectures in three different clubs in Norway, when I get home in around 12-13 days from now I will make some photographs.
Sorry about this thread, but I will do as best as I can to make sensible updates when I get the chance. It will be in much longer intervals than planned.
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 07 Nov 2008, 20:39
by andywoolloo
hemi babies in the main tank! I can only imagine what they think of the beautiful tank world you have created for them! They will be happy little hemis!!
Update us whenever you can at your convenience.
who will feed them when you are gone?
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 07 Nov 2008, 22:28
by Bas Pels
It might be good to learn about raising them in the parents tank
I do, however, think one or two people in Norway will be very disappointed - Someone must have been hoping to be blessed with these.
As I think F1 is better suited to keep in tanks than wild-caught, your fry would have been at least as popular
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 15 Nov 2008, 11:35
by andywoolloo
how are the babies doing?
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 18 Nov 2008, 17:13
by Haavard Stoere
I have been away for 6 days. As I turned on the lights in my fishroom I saw two juveniles sitting on the front glass. Their bellies were round and they were both taking a "dump". Very reassuring
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 20 Nov 2008, 11:16
by Farid
Havaard,
i got a question about the light. as i saw you got quite a lot of the fluorescent pipes over the tank. is that to get enough algae growth or is that just to have enouth light?? i can imagine if the algae grow enough fast even the adults would have enouth food, without getting few with other things...for a sertain time only of course. (i ask cause maybe it is better to have too much ....than not enouth light in a aufwuchs-feeder tank, as i'm getting LDA33 in a few days)...
the same idea helps of course for the L200...what do you think?
farid
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 20 Nov 2008, 11:56
by Haavard Stoere
A lot of light and abundant algae growth would certainly be an advantage. I use little light to avoid heating the room to much, and because of the electric bills. The lighting over the tank is only 2x36 watt tubes that are on for only two hours a day. The rest of the day I use only 3x1watt led. If electricity was free I would use enormous amounts of light 12 hours a day together with fertilizer for the algae.
Yesterday I caught one of the L200 baby's. I will photograph it today. They have a healthy appetite, but have not grown much.
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 20 Nov 2008, 12:33
by Farid
Hi Havaard,
oh i see so the algae growth must me very low then. (2h/day) i thought so because a young catfish would be in paradise finding stones covered in algae
good luck with the babies!
farid
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 20 Nov 2008, 12:35
by Haavard Stoere
I have to compromize, but I agree that a lot of algae would be optimal.
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 20 Nov 2008, 14:56
by Farid
Hi,
as i also keep river loaches...the sucker type. i need algae on my stones...sometimes a reflector does it all...some sea algae powder or spirulina can help
i also have the Tank light virus ....(electricity bills)
farid
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 20 Nov 2008, 18:27
by Haavard Stoere
Todays update
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 20 Nov 2008, 19:09
by Aquariumfun
Wow, what a beautifull pictures!
Pretty to see the development of the eggs and fry!
Good luck growing up the youngsters and we hope to see more of those pics!
What kind of camera do you use?
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 20 Nov 2008, 19:25
by MatsP
Haavard posted before that he uses a Canon EOS 30D or some such (could be 20D or 40D), with a EF 100mm/2.8 USM Macro lens and studio lights.
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Mats
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 20 Nov 2008, 19:30
by loachy_406
Is there really a big dip in front of the dorsal fin, or is it just the angle?
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I guess his 'armour' is still developing. It looks like someone has taken a bite out of him
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 20 Nov 2008, 20:04
by Haavard Stoere
There is a big dip between the head and dorsal fin. I think and hope they are supposed to be like that.
My camera equipment are as Mats states, and the camera is an old eos20d. Hope to buy an eos50d soon cause my camera is getting old and very dirty inside.
It must be said that lighting is the single most important factor when photographing fish. I use 1-9 studio flashlamps that rests on top of the cover glass.
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 08 Dec 2008, 18:00
by DutchFry
Haavard, any chance of update?
would be nice to see some pictures of the fry! they must have developed a fair bit now!
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 03:03
by andywoolloo
yes, I would like to see them also, please.
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 15:31
by ali12345
I have only just found this thread - I am amazed. They are such beautiful fish and the thought that they can be home bred is very positive. I have only had my common bristlenoses breed successfully although my hoplos try hard in the community tank. Looking forward to some more news and photos.
Alison
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 21 Dec 2008, 22:22
by Haavard Stoere
The juveniles are doing fine, but I have not had a chance to catch any of them for photographing recently. There will of course be ubdates, but I can`t say when.
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 10:14
by ali12345
Glad to hear they are coming along nicely.
Alison
Re: Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis
Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 00:53
by Farid
hey havaard,
you won't believe it...it is about 7 days ago since i put the first self made clay caves in my L200 tank 120x60x40cm two days aftes i saw two of them in one of the 8 or nine caves...first i could not believe what i saw...(the tank was not even set um to breed them)as i had plans like havaard with stones etc...
two days the cave was occupied. the days after only one fish was inside ...the smallest male, as the second one was a big male ...so i guessed there was a small male trapped by the bigger one...now tonight i checked all my catfish tanks for eggs as the softwater week is over...usually the week after in harder wager and rising temperatures they lay their eggs...so i found a second L397 eggs (in two weeks) and as i checkked the L200 tank again the small male was at the end of it's cave...always standing on it's frontfins and some kind a nervous...it took me 15 minutes until i saw them...a bounch of eggs!! i guess i will not sleep tonight...
farid