What species is the Clown Pl*co

livebearium · Post by **livebearium** » 05 Oct 2006, 02:23

About a year ago, I bought 5 fish from a LFS. The were labeled Clown Pl#co's. What species are commonly sold with this monicker?

This will help me narrow down my search for more information on them.

Doran

Dave Rinaldo · Post by **Dave Rinaldo** » 05 Oct 2006, 02:36

There is a Common names section in the Cat-eLog

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 05 Oct 2006, 12:01

Whilst Dave is correct that there is a Common name list in the Cat-eLog, there's two (at least) species that are sold as Clown Pleco: is what it SHOULD be, but there's been some confusion in older books and "backtranslation" of the name can sometimes lead to .

There's also the possibility that is identified as P. maccus (they are pretty similar).

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Mats

ndoboi · Post by **ndoboi** » 06 Oct 2006, 06:06

Hope these pics from my collection are of some help -

L104

LDA68

L015

Cheers
Steve

livebearium · Post by **livebearium** » 07 Oct 2006, 01:46

Thanks. I am convinced I have L105's. Anyone have any experience spawning them?

I know there is information in the Cat-elog, but the Cat-elog doesn't correspond with you.

Doran

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 09 Oct 2006, 12:27

L105? They aren't particularly common - are you sure they are not small L104?

Either way, they should be similar to breed, not the easiest to get a spawn from, but doable. There's a thread on spawning LDA67 (which is a closely related species) here.

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Mats

livebearium · Post by **livebearium** » 13 Oct 2006, 18:11

Oops. That is what I meant, L104. Thanks for pointing that out to me. LOL.

Doran

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 13 Oct 2006, 18:23

MatsP wrote:Whilst Dave is correct that there is a Common name list in the Cat-eLog, there's two (at least) species that are sold as Clown pl*co:
Panaque maccus
is what it SHOULD be, but there's been some confusion in older books and "backtranslation" of the name can sometimes lead to
Peckoltia vittata
.

There's also the possibility that
Panaque sp(LDA68)
is identified as P. maccus (they are pretty similar).

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Mats

Anything under 5" with stripes and a suckermouth _could_ be sold as a clown pleco, the ones mentioned here are the common ones, but it could be anything.

Could we use Panaque maccus instead of L104? AFAIK, no one has bred this species.

Jools

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » 14 Oct 2006, 00:28

Panaque maccus and L104 are different fish? I thought that was what the DATZ special was getting at...

Shaun

Dave Rinaldo · Post by **Dave Rinaldo** » 14 Oct 2006, 02:41

Shaun wrote:Panaque maccus and L104 are different fish? I thought that was what the DATZ special was getting at...
Shaun

I think Jools was saying that an L#, when ID'd, should be referred to by it's scientific name. (eg. not L046)

PlecoCrazy · Post by **PlecoCrazy** » 14 Oct 2006, 05:17

Jools wrote: AFAIK, no one has bred this species.

Jools

Are you serious, I would have thought that such a common inexpensive species had been bred before.

Guess I know what my next species to try will be, and that won't even break the bank to pick up a group.

Post by **Shane** » 14 Oct 2006, 07:50

Anything under 5" with stripes and a suckermouth _could_ be sold as a clown pl*co, the ones mentioned here are the common ones, but it could be anything.

Jools is right on the mark. Just as any plain colored inexpensive Hypostominae can be sold as a "common" pleco, just about any smaller Hypostominae with stripes seems to be a "clown" pleco. L. pardalis is the sp most commonly sold under the trade name "common" pleco and P. maccus is the sp most commonly sold as a "clown" pleco, but many, many other spp are also sold under these names.
-Shane

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » 15 Oct 2006, 23:35

The DATZ special book: http://www.planetcatfish.com/books/book ... cle_id=304
seems to imply that L162 is Panaque maccus and L104 is a similar, but not one and the same, species.
I may be very wrong.
Shaun

What species is the Clown Pl*co

What species is the Clown Pl*co

L104

Re: L104

L104